Nutty, why haven't you written a book about mediafandom? For real.

Because several have already been written

Yes, but I don't know those authors, and I'm sure I don't like them as much as I like you.

the thread itself is showing some wear at the seams

I don't see those seams as stretching unduly. I see the thread as doing what it was made for--containing discussion about a bunch of different shows, sometimes quite excitedly.

I don't feel any more stretched ignoring the SPN flail (I like the show--I just have no need to flail) than ignoring any of the other things I don't care to talk about--in fact, since it's usually clustered, it's easier to skip the flail, than, say, baseball talk that's interwoven with things of which I like.

Maybe we should go back in time and not combine the Due South, Farscape, and Smallville threads.

No?

Though, really, I love the thread when I'm watching pretty much everything discussed in it, and SPN is pretty much the first time in a long time I haven't been on the "next big thing" train.

Maybe we should go back in time and not combine the Due South, Farscape, and Smallville threads.

Even then, I thought we were creating an sff thread. Sure, it was largely media fannish but it was years before I wrapped my head around mediafandom being considered a required or even preferred characteristic of a show within it.

I &heart Daisy Jane. Bunches.

And yes, Nutty should write the definitive media fandom opus. It's really difficult to navigate that line of what I feel and what other people want to know. I can't take the mushy out of it and wind up being bad and sloppy at explaining.

In conclusion, thank heaven for Nutty and Daisy.

I've been looking at the original conversation

Okay, I feel that I should FORMALLY APOLOGIZE. It was just a suggestion! I was trying to be helpful and suggest ways to keep the servers from exploding! I did not foresee the current conversation!

Also, for what it's worth, I am media fannish and would not join an SPN thread.

I forget. How long is discussion supposed to run before the subject is tabled or goes to a vote?

My vote would be for what the majority of the actual SPN watchers and posters want. Unfortunately, I can't figure out exactly what that is from reading the discussion.

Personally, I'm agin' a dedicated thread.

I feel bad that other people are feeling crowded, yes, but I've been anti-thread-proliferation since the Phoenix flew. I didn't comment during the experimental TV discussion, because I didn't have a dog in that fight other than "no splitty!" Which, while pithy, isn't exactly a coherent argument.

Here, I feel forced out and unwelcome, and that is joining with my anti-proliferationista position to overwhelm the guilt that I feel knowing that people are annoyed with the SPN fen. So, I don't want it.

However, I'm highly for letting this go to vote, so we can take action (or not, as the case may be) and move on.

And because I can't seem to shut the hell up:

I'm not trying to say "I want my thread dammit and everyone else can shut up" - seriously, I'm not (I just get vocal when hurt, and this has stung). I want Boxed Set to be liveable for everyone - I would really like it if we could come with a compromise of some sort. It seems like compromise has been lost as a general tool (not just for this discussion).

I am intrigued by the idea of a dedicated W&P thread and would like to explore that further - that might have the effect of containing the visceral flail and then when the W&P is over, we could port deeper discussion back over to Boxed Set. (And I realize that's against my anti-proliferation stance, but it would be a compromise I could live with.)