We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jesse - Apr 12, 2007 2:49:25 pm PDT #6630 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If this were really true no one would be talking about whitefont now. I manage to stay unspoiled for most things, though if it's a big cultural thing like AI or Sopranos it's hard to avoid. Those I would watch right away. But House? Ugly Betty? It's my own fault if I let it sit for a week, but so many people have DVRs, there's SO MUCH on like on a Thursday or a Tuesday, expecting people to watch everything the night it airs is a lot.

Right. And the spoilers that come out in casual conversation are the "OMG I can't believe Cuddy DIED!" but I still care about being spoiled for the less major episodic plot points.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2007 2:59:15 pm PDT #6631 of 10289
What is even happening?

IRN, again it seems the biggest sticking point is how to have a Natter-like place (in that genre of topic doesn't matter) to discuss shows that doesn't require you have to keep up with Natter. As in, some folks wouldn't necessarily like the white-font and/or bucket-ness that would entail, but it would at least be a spoiler-free option compared to a blackfont thread and also slower-moving (especially if people indicated which shows they were talking about) than Natter.

Right, but these are just the fact-finding threads. If this shows us we need X dedicated show threads, they would be NAFDA like the rest of our show threads. If it points out other shows that really aren't thread worthy alone, but would work in a manageable-sized bucket, whoever proposes it can decide (or include different white font possibilities on their ballots for actual threads).

Fact finding is going to be a lot more meaningful if

(a) People aren't afraid to come into the threads for fear of being spoiled

(b) People aren't too put off all the white font to bother using threads.

I think we all have to compromise on this. I don't know the answer.


esse - Apr 12, 2007 3:28:17 pm PDT #6632 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

The reason I say a day is exactly because there is so much television that's going to be on in the next six weeks. Sweeps and season finales are going to be boom boom boom right after another, and I think it will be hard enough having to go through the potentially large number of shows that could potentially be discussed and follow a thread of discussion--helpful show indicator at the beginning of a post or not--without having to deal with whitefont.

Granted, I won't be nearly as concerned about this once I can set my css to ignore whitefont altogether. But until that happens, I lean more towards once it's aired. Or at least a day after it's aired.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2007 3:30:04 pm PDT #6633 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

once I can set my css to ignore whitefont altogether

You can do that right now at css.buffistas.net.


Dana - Apr 12, 2007 4:01:16 pm PDT #6634 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, I'm liking the sound of that.


Jesse - Apr 12, 2007 4:04:22 pm PDT #6635 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Although, would people who don't want to read whitefont remember to post in whitefont? I'm thinking no.


NoiseDesign - Apr 12, 2007 4:07:46 pm PDT #6636 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

The reason I say a day is exactly because there is so much television that's going to be on in the next six weeks.

See, this would be exactly the reason that I would want a bit more time. With this much TV going on I'm going to be doing a decent amount of it on a few days lag via Tivo. I'm free enough right now that I won't be too far behind, but when the shows are hitting quickly I can't watch them all at once.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 12, 2007 4:09:10 pm PDT #6637 of 10289
What is even happening?

I could put the days to a vote, I suppose. I was hoping to keep the ballot simple, but it's no big.


DavidS - Apr 12, 2007 4:44:43 pm PDT #6638 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think Dana's point is important to remember. Various threads have various white font/black font rules. So...let the thread proposal dictate that.

I get the feeling that we're not going to have an FX bucket thread now, but if we did the Premium people would probably put out the proposal and they could set the terms.

Also, it's good to compromise. It's good to be flexible.

For the sake of experiment we could have different threads with different white font and spoiler policies.

That's basically what we have now anyway and it seems to work.


Jon B. - Apr 13, 2007 6:28:56 am PDT #6639 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

You can do that right now at css.buffistas.net.

Really? You made the change to the "s" quickedit? Let's check! Why, yes you did! Cool!