I don't think so, but I don't remember for sure.

I kind of assumed that Minearverse would continue as the default Drive thread, at least for a while

I'm sure it will, and I don't see a problem with it. It's just that there's not a show thread idea mentioned yet I see as more obvious than that.

Anyway. Parenthetical.

Well, Drive will be the only show being discussed in the Minearverse thread, and I think everyone here knows Tim does it, so there'll be no problem with people not knowing where to go, being spoiled for other shows while in there, or drowned out by talk of other shows, and people who are staying out because they're behind won't be missing out on any other talk. Show talk, anyway. So it might as well be a dedicated show thread.

Would The Amazing Race come under Unscripted? Because when that airs, Natter looks like a whitewashed fence.

One would assume. Also, heh.

Okay. I know I'm slow. But I am confused.

SA wanted to change just the thread description of Premium to include FX shows so that they could be discussed there. Were they being discussed? Also, were people trying to discuss them and then being told, "Oh no! We mustn't!"

Cindy is proposing something else entirely to figure out how to deal with the TV issue since it comes up frequently.

Am I missing something cause I don't understand.

In theory, mind you, talking about Tim and discussing Drive aren't equivalent. And wanting to discuss any of the other shows in the header isn't a spoiling offence.

However, in play, it's unlikely that anyone will want to talk about any of Tim's other stuff while the show is on, so it won't matter.

SA wanted to change just the thread description of Premium to include FX shows so that they could be discussed there. Were they being discussed? Also, were people trying to discuss them and then being told, "Oh no! We mustn't!"

There wasn't really any discussion, There was some discussion about the possibility of talking about F/X shows, which no one objected to in thread. It was the question of changing the slug/description (I get those confused) to include F/X shows that has been controversial.

Cindy's proposal is a separate thing.

I am also confused, but that is my understanding of the situation to date.

I think the notion for a Drive thread, as it was implicitly for an Inside thread, was "let's see if it gets picked up for a full season then we'll give it its own thread."

I hate to adopt a tone of "you had to be there" but it strikes me that Sean's concerns about "faux democracy" and Cindy's concerns about consensus arise (at last in part) because they weren't active when we hammered out our procedures.

The reasons why things are the way they are is because there was a very long difficult discussion that ranged from principles to statistics to protocols and we all sort of hashed out our feelings on democracy and consensus and what was workable.

The reason we have a limit on how long we talk is because we discovered we never stop dithering about any issue. If we didn't put it within the Lightbulbs zone, for a limited discussion (with a further limit on when the issue could be raised again) our essential Buffista blabbiness kept us from doing anything.

The reason why we don't just use consensus is because quick consensus (early on) became our process to get around the stalemate of our blabbiness. At some level we disliked the notion of actually voting on stuff, but it quickly became apparent that voting is...well, fair.

Cindy may have the impression that people don't like bucket threads but if we put it to a vote I think she'll find out why we vote about things.

Anyway, I don't mean to discount Cindy or Sean's perspectives on these things but I would ask you both to trust the system a little.

I think the notion for a Drive thread, as it was implicitly for an Inside thread, was "let's see if it gets picked up for a full season then we'll give it its own thread."

Do you have evidence for that?

Also--had Heroes been picked up for a full season when it got its own (no matter how inevitable it seemed--I just want to file stuff correctly)?

God, I suck at staying inside the parentheses.

Also--had Heroes been picked up for a full season when it got its own (no matter how inevitable it seemed--I just want to file stuff correctly)?

Yep. It got picked up after three episodes.