There was some discussion about the possibility of talking about F/X shows, which no one objected to in thread. It was the question of changing the slug/description (I get those confused) to include F/X shows that has been controversial.

So it was the naming of things that became the controversy?

I get that people like things all official. But it also seems that for the most part people will discuss what the want where they want to. So if there were no changes, then the people who wanted to dicuss FX shows in the Premium thread would be able to do so, just without an official slug or description?

-t, I'm relieved to be not the only one confused.

Kat, you've got it right. SA's request spun off into everyone talking about the general TV situation. SA didn't want to make a proposal (at least not at that time) for the Premium expansion. This is a separate thing (that grew out of the spinning off).

ita, wasn't discussing Tim's shows one of the reasons for opening a Tim thread? It seems to me Allyson proposed it before Wonderfalls, but we already knew Wonderfalls was on the way.

I hate to adopt a tone of "you had to be there" but it strikes me that Sean's concerns about "faux democracy" and Cindy's concerns about consensus arise (at last in part) because they weren't active when we hammered out our procedures.

Oh my goodness, David. I was so here, I might have been 12 of the gang of 14.

-t, weren't you one of the people who did not want Premium expanded?

Obviously, Cindy. But the idea that not having watched Drive yet means you can't discuss Wonderfalls or the Inside isn't fair.

I don't think it'll come up, but it's still not fair.

Kat, I am one of the big screamers about "discuss what you want!" in any TV thread. Not only is a slippery slope to a general TV thread where the people who got there first decide how things should be done (oh, the evil), but it's only fair if conversations are all in blackfont that someone current on HBO shows but behind on Rescue Me doesn't get slammed with spoilers.

-t, weren't you one of the people who did not want Premium expanded?

Yeah. And, as Kat notes, it's the naming of things that is the problem for me. If SA and anyone like-minded had just chatted about The Riches or whatever in Premium for a while, I wouldn't have cared one bit, but repurposing the thread officially troubled me. Eta: after reading ita's post above, I think I was implicitly assuming that such "off-topic" discussions would be in white-font and if they were made on-topic they would be black-font.

I don't even know what I think about that anymore.

And I don't know what we're trying to hash out in here. But I keep reading, hoping I will get it enough to at least sort out my own opinion.

This is how we ended up with the confusion in box set though. It took me over a year to figure out that SG1 was discussed in there because there was no mention of it in the slug or anywhere else. I don't think it's much of a solution to say "Well if they had just done it and not wanted to put it in the slug then it would have been okay."

Oh my goodness, David. I was so here, I might have been 12 of the gang of 14.

Which of your secret identities were you sporting then?

I don't think it's much of a solution to say "Well if they had just done it and not wanted to put it in the slug then it would have been okay."

FTR, I'm not saying it would have been okay. I'm saying that I, personally, would not have complained. In retrospect, I think it was a good thing that SA did bring it up officially.

If memory serves, I think she was calling herself "Cindy." She's a tricksy one!

If memory serves, I think she was calling herself "Cindy." She's a tricksy one!

Aha!

Okay, now I'm pretty sure she's Beverly's sock puppet.