if they don't show up and/or don't apologize, then they're warned, right? officially, because that's the next step. There will still be 10 or however many posters asking that they be warned. It's just that the 10 or however many who were offended won't take back their request for a warning since there was no explanation or apology.

That sounds right Deena. Sorry. I think I'm applying this too much to the situation at hand to talk about the policy in general.

I'm going to skip here for a bit until I'm able to generalize.

if they don't show up and/or don't apologize, then they're warned, right?

Oh hell yeah. And personally, if I were on the fence about them being warned and they didn't bother to show, I'd probably be much more likely to fall on the side of "warn".

If I were defending someone and saying "well I think X doesn't mean it like that" and X never showed up to offer up a defense I'd change my mind about X.

on the how long to 10 secondeds front.

I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.

What's the downside to 48 hours, especially if one usually gets the support in a fraction of that?

I was going to say that the downside is if we get locked into some idea of having to spend two days processing every incident of bad behavior, which would kill me. But then I saw this:

I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.

This I like. You have 48 hours to get ten people to agree, but the discussion can stop after the ten weigh in.

However, here's a question: What if ten people say yes, send the warning, but twenty say no, I don't think so? We warn anyway?

What if ten people say yes, send the warning, but twenty say no, I don't think so?

I run away and hide. But seriously. I don't know that there's a good answer to this question. 10 people are upset, 20 people think they're overreacting...I'm not sure how we handle that.

That's sort of why I don't see discussion ending at 10. 4 will say yes warn, 2 might come in and say no don't. The original 4 may clarify and argue their points, and some will join in on either side, everyone clarifying and trying to sway.

What about a percentage, say a majority of posters in Bureau have to be for warning?

I'm afraid that then you're edging close to voting.