That sounds right Deena. Sorry. I think I'm applying this too much to the situation at hand to talk about the policy in general.
I'm going to skip here for a bit until I'm able to generalize.
They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.
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Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 4:06:51 pm PDT #636 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 4:07:33 pm PDT #637 of 10289
if they don't show up and/or don't apologize, then they're warned, right?
Oh hell yeah. And personally, if I were on the fence about them being warned and they didn't bother to show, I'd probably be much more likely to fall on the side of "warn".
askye - Apr 14, 2003 4:16:59 pm PDT #638 of 10289
Thrive to spite them
If I were defending someone and saying "well I think X doesn't mean it like that" and X never showed up to offer up a defense I'd change my mind about X.
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 4:42:47 pm PDT #639 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
on the how long to 10 secondeds front.
I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.
Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 5:05:37 pm PDT #640 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
What's the downside to 48 hours, especially if one usually gets the support in a fraction of that?
I was going to say that the downside is if we get locked into some idea of having to spend two days processing every incident of bad behavior, which would kill me. But then I saw this:
I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.
This I like. You have 48 hours to get ten people to agree, but the discussion can stop after the ten weigh in.
However, here's a question: What if ten people say yes, send the warning, but twenty say no, I don't think so? We warn anyway?
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 5:07:53 pm PDT #641 of 10289
What if ten people say yes, send the warning, but twenty say no, I don't think so?
I run away and hide. But seriously. I don't know that there's a good answer to this question. 10 people are upset, 20 people think they're overreacting...I'm not sure how we handle that.
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 5:09:11 pm PDT #642 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
That's sort of why I don't see discussion ending at 10. 4 will say yes warn, 2 might come in and say no don't. The original 4 may clarify and argue their points, and some will join in on either side, everyone clarifying and trying to sway.
arby - Apr 14, 2003 5:12:01 pm PDT #643 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
What about a percentage, say a majority of posters in Bureau have to be for warning?
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 5:15:03 pm PDT #644 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I'm afraid that then you're edging close to voting.
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 5:16:07 pm PDT #645 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I chose 10 because I think that if 10 people are offended there is a problem, even if 20 aren't offended.
We can never stop people from discussing - and that is the great thing about a warning, it doesn't keep the poster being warned from posting and voicing their side. It just says, a volume of the community that we have deemed to be sufficient has issue with the tone in one or many of your messages and your refusal to address that issue has led to this warning. We handle stuff in this board This way, please adhere to it. Thanks.