That's sort of why I don't see discussion ending at 10. 4 will say yes warn, 2 might come in and say no don't. The original 4 may clarify and argue their points, and some will join in on either side, everyone clarifying and trying to sway.
Mal: That's not what I saw. You like to tell me what really happened? Book: I surely would. And maybe someday I will.
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Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 5:09:11 pm PDT #642 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
arby - Apr 14, 2003 5:12:01 pm PDT #643 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
What about a percentage, say a majority of posters in Bureau have to be for warning?
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 5:15:03 pm PDT #644 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I'm afraid that then you're edging close to voting.
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 5:16:07 pm PDT #645 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I chose 10 because I think that if 10 people are offended there is a problem, even if 20 aren't offended.
We can never stop people from discussing - and that is the great thing about a warning, it doesn't keep the poster being warned from posting and voicing their side. It just says, a volume of the community that we have deemed to be sufficient has issue with the tone in one or many of your messages and your refusal to address that issue has led to this warning. We handle stuff in this board This way, please adhere to it. Thanks.
§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 5:16:55 pm PDT #646 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Are ten offended Buffistas important to the community as a whole? That, I think, is the question.
If they are, then 1 or 20 or 290 unoffended posters don't matter.
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 5:18:51 pm PDT #647 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I think I may be hanging in the corner with msbelle for quite some time.
arby - Apr 14, 2003 5:19:10 pm PDT #648 of 10289
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
Well, given all the discussion in Bureau over the weekend, it seems safe to say that people will not do this lightly - i.e., by the time it's suggested, many people who have been upset and/or offended for a while will be able to second it - it's not as if the suggester is going to have to drum up support or anything.
[Sorry if that makes no sense - brain not functioning ATM]
Laura - Apr 14, 2003 5:19:44 pm PDT #649 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
I can't imagine a scenario where 10 of my fellow members were upset that would find 20 of us thinking a warning was overkill. If my fellows are upset I am also upset. 10 people calling for a warning is an indication to me of a real problem.
xposty of course
Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 5:21:00 pm PDT #650 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Are ten offended Buffistas important to the community as a whole? That, I think, is the question.
If they are, then 1 or 20 or 290 unoffended posters don't matter.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Katie M - Apr 14, 2003 5:22:06 pm PDT #651 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I run away and hide. But seriously. I don't know that there's a good answer to this question. 10 people are upset, 20 people think they're overreacting...I'm not sure how we handle that.
Depends on how seriously you see a warning. The fact that it's one warning and then a suspension is what makes me feel nervous about this. If it were more, then I would absolutely be fine with a warning for ten offended people even if the majority felt that the statement wasn't offensive, because if we're going to have a board where it's not okay to offend people and then not apologize when called on it we may as well go all the way. Lowest common denominator. (And I'm so easily offended that I'm not easily offended, if that makes any sense. I squash down feelings generated online with wild abandon, because I've been through one too many meta conversations about them and on average they don't seem to help.)