After the notice, that's fine by me, but what about when the request to be met in bureaucracy isn't followed up on?
Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.
'Origin'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 3:45:49 pm PDT #631 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2003 3:48:02 pm PDT #632 of 10289
Up with the sun
I like the 6-month good behavior exemption, and the idea that once something is in bureaucracy it gets dropped where it started.
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 3:50:43 pm PDT #633 of 10289
what about when the request to be met in bureaucracy isn't followed up on?
I think it depends. If the alleged offender says, "Look I don't want to talk about this in Bureaucracy. I was wrong, I'm sorry," then hey, our work is done. But I think a refusal to address the issue at all and not even show up in Bureaucracy to try and work things out is a statement in and of itself.
Also, if the offensive behavior continues in the thread? That's a whole different animal and should be dealt with in the original thread as the situation unfolds.
ETA: Or maybe not? I dunno what to do in that case.
askye - Apr 14, 2003 3:59:43 pm PDT #634 of 10289
Thrive to spite them
I like the 6 mth clean slate deal.
bitterchick has a point about someone not even showing up to discuss that they are causing problems, the lack of particpation should be taken into consideration.
Also, I agree with 48hrs.
Deena - Apr 14, 2003 4:04:51 pm PDT #635 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
if they don't show up and/or don't apologize, then they're warned, right? officially, because that's the next step. There will still be 10 or however many posters asking that they be warned. It's just that the 10 or however many who were offended won't take back their request for a warning since there was no explanation or apology.
Daisy Jane - Apr 14, 2003 4:06:51 pm PDT #636 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
That sounds right Deena. Sorry. I think I'm applying this too much to the situation at hand to talk about the policy in general.
I'm going to skip here for a bit until I'm able to generalize.
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 4:07:33 pm PDT #637 of 10289
if they don't show up and/or don't apologize, then they're warned, right?
Oh hell yeah. And personally, if I were on the fence about them being warned and they didn't bother to show, I'd probably be much more likely to fall on the side of "warn".
askye - Apr 14, 2003 4:16:59 pm PDT #638 of 10289
Thrive to spite them
If I were defending someone and saying "well I think X doesn't mean it like that" and X never showed up to offer up a defense I'd change my mind about X.
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 4:42:47 pm PDT #639 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
on the how long to 10 secondeds front.
I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.
Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 5:05:37 pm PDT #640 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
What's the downside to 48 hours, especially if one usually gets the support in a fraction of that?
I was going to say that the downside is if we get locked into some idea of having to spend two days processing every incident of bad behavior, which would kill me. But then I saw this:
I like the idea that the warning goes as soon as 10 is reached. If that is 10 minutes, then so be it, if it takes all 48 hours because it's a weekend or holiday or my birthday or somesuch, then that is cool too. But no 10 by 48 hours 1 minute and tough titties, no warning at that moment as a result of the instance or build up of instances brought up.
This I like. You have 48 hours to get ten people to agree, but the discussion can stop after the ten weigh in.
However, here's a question: What if ten people say yes, send the warning, but twenty say no, I don't think so? We warn anyway?