Okay, I've read the discussion and the proposal and I am not sure this avoides the "general TV hoopla" by being specifically a HBO/Showtime thread. People are still asking where they can discuss specific shows that do not fall under this category (e.g. House).

Is it time yet for a general TV thread?

Is it time yet for a general TV thread?

I don't think it's about when so much as about how.

I still can't find a proposal for a general TV thread that would be at all useful to me, and I eat television.

The proposal seemed pretty clearly specific to me. I don't understand why someone would think House/PR would fit here.

Is it time yet for a general TV thread?

What has changed since the last time we voted that down? (Or... what ita said)

Rome & Sopranos would both be in Premium Boxed Set, when they start up again.

I don't often watch the stuff on the premium channels (I only get Showtime, no HBO), if I did, I would prefer a thread where I could find them. It's just like it took me a while to find where Eureka was being talked about. I skimmed Natter for it and couldn't find. Finally asked myself, maybe boxed set as a genre show, because I don't normally hang there. And then I found it. Knowing that I can find the premium shows in a premium Thread will make it easier to find if I decide to start watching more TV.

I feel a little left out. My shows aren't worthy of their own thread.

I don't understand why someone would think House/PR would fit here.

I don't think the poster thought that. But didn't know where "House" would be discussed.

The other House and PR fans seem to be doing fine, and as someone with no interest in either show, it doesn't bother me in the least to skip over the discussion.

Rome & Sopranos would both be in Premium Boxed Set, when they start up again.

Sure, they'll go in there, but was there a lot of discussion of either show (Wire, too) when it aired before?

Most of these shows aren't concurrent, so you'd have maybe 6-8 posters posting about one show at a time. That traffic doesn't bother me in Natter and Movies, but I'm not fond of the idea of dedicating a new thread to it.

Under the current rules, House and Project Runway are in Natter in whitefont. Is that not working?

Another question: The main reason, it seems, that Deadwood talk moved into Movies was that Movies moves more slowly than Natter and some people can't keep up with Natter. In general, we've tended to award a show its own thread on basis of its disrupting Natter with its talk, rather than its explicitly moving out of Natter in order to find a space where it can have a higher signal-to-noise ratio. This would seem to be rewarding rule-breaking for a very small audience, rather than relieving the eyeballs of a very big audience. Thoughts?

While I think that Boxed Set has grown reasonably organically, according to fannish hivemind, there have been moments of confusion. It was in the last General TV discussion that ND said, "Wait, you guys talk Stargate in Boxed Set? I didn't know that!" And every once in a while we'll get some random chatter about a non-genre TV show in Boxed Set, because it's assumed to be a General TV thread.

If we want to do a Deluxe Box thread, I want it to:
a) have enough of a built-in audience to last
b) have some kind of throughline beyond "expensive cable" connecting one show to the next. The reason Boxed Set works is that fannish osmosis has a good chance of drawing you from one show to the next. Eureka is a natural fit, e.g. I'm not sure that the same kind of cohesion exists for HBO and Showtime series.
b) have a clear purpose clearly stated, that doesn't overlap (any more than necessary) with Boxed Set