You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 7:10:54 am PDT #6118 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it time yet for a general TV thread?

I don't think it's about when so much as about how.

I still can't find a proposal for a general TV thread that would be at all useful to me, and I eat television.


aurelia - Aug 15, 2006 7:13:27 am PDT #6119 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The proposal seemed pretty clearly specific to me. I don't understand why someone would think House/PR would fit here.

Is it time yet for a general TV thread?

What has changed since the last time we voted that down? (Or... what ita said)


Jessica - Aug 15, 2006 7:13:54 am PDT #6120 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Rome & Sopranos would both be in Premium Boxed Set, when they start up again.


SailAweigh - Aug 15, 2006 7:21:30 am PDT #6121 of 10289
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I don't often watch the stuff on the premium channels (I only get Showtime, no HBO), if I did, I would prefer a thread where I could find them. It's just like it took me a while to find where Eureka was being talked about. I skimmed Natter for it and couldn't find. Finally asked myself, maybe boxed set as a genre show, because I don't normally hang there. And then I found it. Knowing that I can find the premium shows in a premium Thread will make it easier to find if I decide to start watching more TV.


Connie Neil - Aug 15, 2006 7:25:46 am PDT #6122 of 10289
brillig

I feel a little left out. My shows aren't worthy of their own thread.


le nubian - Aug 15, 2006 7:27:34 am PDT #6123 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't understand why someone would think House/PR would fit here.

I don't think the poster thought that. But didn't know where "House" would be discussed.


§ ita § - Aug 15, 2006 7:29:52 am PDT #6124 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The other House and PR fans seem to be doing fine, and as someone with no interest in either show, it doesn't bother me in the least to skip over the discussion.


bon bon - Aug 15, 2006 7:41:15 am PDT #6125 of 10289
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Rome & Sopranos would both be in Premium Boxed Set, when they start up again.

Sure, they'll go in there, but was there a lot of discussion of either show (Wire, too) when it aired before?

Most of these shows aren't concurrent, so you'd have maybe 6-8 posters posting about one show at a time. That traffic doesn't bother me in Natter and Movies, but I'm not fond of the idea of dedicating a new thread to it.


Nutty - Aug 15, 2006 7:42:02 am PDT #6126 of 10289
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Under the current rules, House and Project Runway are in Natter in whitefont. Is that not working?

Another question: The main reason, it seems, that Deadwood talk moved into Movies was that Movies moves more slowly than Natter and some people can't keep up with Natter. In general, we've tended to award a show its own thread on basis of its disrupting Natter with its talk, rather than its explicitly moving out of Natter in order to find a space where it can have a higher signal-to-noise ratio. This would seem to be rewarding rule-breaking for a very small audience, rather than relieving the eyeballs of a very big audience. Thoughts?

While I think that Boxed Set has grown reasonably organically, according to fannish hivemind, there have been moments of confusion. It was in the last General TV discussion that ND said, "Wait, you guys talk Stargate in Boxed Set? I didn't know that!" And every once in a while we'll get some random chatter about a non-genre TV show in Boxed Set, because it's assumed to be a General TV thread.

If we want to do a Deluxe Box thread, I want it to:
a) have enough of a built-in audience to last
b) have some kind of throughline beyond "expensive cable" connecting one show to the next. The reason Boxed Set works is that fannish osmosis has a good chance of drawing you from one show to the next. Eureka is a natural fit, e.g. I'm not sure that the same kind of cohesion exists for HBO and Showtime series.
b) have a clear purpose clearly stated, that doesn't overlap (any more than necessary) with Boxed Set


le nubian - Aug 15, 2006 7:42:40 am PDT #6127 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The other House and PR fans seem to be doing fine, and as someone with no interest in either show, it doesn't bother me in the least to skip over the discussion.

I understand that, but I also think it is possible that others may have other needs. I feel like there have been a couple of attempts to shut me down here and I'm not/have not been trying to be combative.

I will go away quietly from this thread if my comments are not appreciated.