I'm not such a fan of filtering.

Okay...so I'm reading through the discussion regarding a Fall TV/TV thread and I'm not sure how to summarize what I've read. Let me attempt it in search of other comments:

1) People interested in a TV Natter thread generally

2) People interested in just a Fall TV thread (which would cover debuts from this month, Sept and October

3) People not interested in either because it would be too many shows slammed in one thread.

Does this represent all expressed views so far?

Continuing on...if we had a "Fall TV" thread, what would people want to discuss in the thread? Exclusions? How long-lived would this thread be?

Would we want to have a 2nd season Winter TV thread as well?

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It shouldn't. Essentially you're just creating virtual threads and the functionality would be no different than "real" threads.

Well, the thing with skeeving is that it just sort of happens. And I like the way the thread is now. I don't want it to change. I acknowledge that it doesn't work for some people, but it does work for some people. And I am those people. People who need people.

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Dana, I agree that it's not a great solution and not something I'd want to see. But, I figured it was also easier to point out the tech end objections.

I think assuming that I will be self filtering in a thread where X number of shows (and let's say we'll be generous and say 10 shows) are being discussed is also unwieldy. It means that west coasters could never participate because if an 8:00 show airs and the discussion is happening, and if I get it here in LA at 8:00 and want to talk about it, I can't because there may be posts about shows for which I don't want to be spoiled that have already aired in NYC at 10:00, but which I haven't watched. Ditto at 10:00 here if the east coasters are talking about, I dunno, the Daily Show.

Essentially it's a thread people who are timewise behind the east coast could never participate in. This isn't even talking about tape delay or tivo delay.

Moreover, If each of those shows generates 10 posts a day (which is possible) that's still a lot of posts. Not including the WNP or the other high post count days on day of airing. So I'm not sure how this is less traffic (and if you don't watch all 10 shows) less noise than anywhere else where shows are being discussed.

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I'm one of those people, too, Dana. For whom it works. The filtering for myself. I like it as is.

So, after a show gets a second season what happens? Talk goes in Natter? Because not every show will generate enough interest for its own thread. And that defeats at least one of the reasons that (I think) supporters want a TV thread - not having to mine Natter for discussion.

Example: I'm used to talking BSG with people in Boxed Set. If it had been in a Fall TV thread last year (or, well, January. Whatever.), then where would I be going to talk about it now (assuming that it didn't have a home in Boxed Set, naturally)? Natter? Because that would be frustrating, probably - been used to it one way, now a whole different thread and a whole different whitefont rule.

Unless I'm misunderstanding that part - the threads in the proposal are for New TV, right?

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The filtering idea skeeves me no end. If people want that kind of interaction, set up a Livejournal community. This is a discussion board.

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The filtering idea skeeves me no end. If people want that kind of interaction, set up a Livejournal community. This is a discussion board.

While I was still trying to sort out why I felt the skeeve, Jess sums it up for me.

I'm still not sure how I feel about a new thread. I'm not really rah-rah for proliferation but I can see a potential place for new tv discussions.

But the filter skeeves me, especially at b.org.

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I don't have anything more to add in support of my idea. However, I'd like to itemize the advantages to filtering and then leave it at that:

• Stops thread proliferation for every little show that comes along
• It's easier to find and respond to a particular show rather than having to search whitefont in Natter
• If a time filter is included, it keeps you from being spoiled by reading too far
• The filtering could be optional (i.e. a "Show All" filter would be available), so the thread could stay the way it is now if you liked

I can't help the skeevage; different strokes and all that. This is the only solution I can see that addresses all of these meta-issues as well as the new proposed thread at hand.

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It's skeevy because it's threading, which is not what we do; this is a linear board. When we do thread, we do it to keep conversation from being crowded, not to isolate certain conversations.

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One solution to both the proposed thread and Boxed Set is to build filtering into the thread.

Suppose I want to make a post. I select the show the post is regarding:

O BSG O SG-1 O SGA

Actually, this is remarkably similar to what I proposed some time ago. However, I suggested having the check boxes/radio buttons just drop in the name of the show at the beginning of the post (with a seperating line) so that when one is skimming for their favorite show, juey just have to flick past the posts that don't start with " - Stargate Atlantis -" or "- Battlestar Galactica -" and someone doing a general convo would select no box/button.

That way we aren't truly threading, except in our heads, and the whole of Boxed Set stays pretty much open and free for those who want to read it all.

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I don't see the practical benefit to doing that instead of a thread for every show. Which I'm also not interested in.

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