Also,
Suppose someone wanted advice on a situation, but didn't want to 'fess up to being in the particular situation. Uses a different name, talks it out, gets some advice, no harm no foul, goes back to being whoever. Is that a huge problem?
See, I think this is actually a different issue from sockpuppeting. We have had, and probably will have, situations like this, and I don't hear anyone saying that they were offended or upset or annoyed by them.
I don't want the term Sock Puppets in there anywhere. If we are going to add the verbage I just want to have it very matter of fact and dealing with users that maintain multiple logins.
Except that, as Denise mentioned above, there's a difference between me posting as Buffy's Leather Pants--in the Persona of the Pants--and Allyson using her LJ name to post gossip she doesn't want linked to her official fandom profile. So I agree that "Sockpuppet" might not be the best term to use, but I don't know what the best way to distinguish between those two types of multiple login situations in official language would be.
Sorry to post and run, but I'm off to build a chicken coop. Have a lovely Saturday, everyone.
I don't have much to add at this point, but will note that Kate and brenda are doing a good job of articulating my perspective.
I think everybody felt pleasantly refreshed at the notion we could come to a quick and easy consensus on this issue without a vote. Now, that seems premature. As Sophia notes, the vote itself is a way to get a more accurate consensus (less bullshitty), so I won't hang on to happy consensus land.
And I think that puts to big a responsibility on the shoulders of ita adn Jon, who will be making the changes, if any, we the Buffistas, deem necessary.
Thanks Sophia, but I don't feel burdened in the least. If all we're doing is updating the Etiquette page or FAQ, then it won't take more than a few minutes to implement.
I just don't think we can make changes to the documents that say how we want people to act without voting on it.
Thanks Sophia, but I don't feel burdened in the least. If all we're doing is updating the Etiquette page or FAQ, then it won't take more than a few minutes to implement.
Just thinking of you... But what I really meant to articulate was that you or ita need to decide if we have reached a consensus before you post anything. That is what the vote does-- makes the consensus clear.
I am coming late to the conversation but I wanted to add my views, or at least note where I stand on the issue.
The sockpuppets (wow, I typoed that more times than I care to admit before getting it right.) often amuse me. And sometimes they can grate. Which makes them a lot like the rest of the posters we have.
strongly encouraging people who create jokey sock puppets to identify themselves in the profile of said sock puppet
This. I wouldn't always look, but I already go to profiles to see if there is a disclaimer, ownership or clue there when a new name strikes me as a SP.
I don't want the term Sock Puppets in there anywhere. If we are going to add the verbage I just want to have it very matter of fact and dealing with users that maintain multiple logins.
And this.
I don't personally need to vote on this if we can consense, but I am certainly willing to if the group wants/needs it.
I can't withdraw the proposal until four days after I made it. Rest assured, I'm counting the hours.
It's your proposal; you can withdraw it at any time. I lost count -- when would the vote start if there is one? I'd need to set up the ballot.
It's your proposal; you can withdraw it at any time.
My understanding was that I couldn't withdraw it until there had been four days of discussion.
The discussion was worthwhile. While I heartily agree with not voting, I appreciate that we discussed the issue.
