Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Ha. NM has a state ballot issue about whether we should institute run-offs for certain municipal races. I thought about the Buffistas and my greatly expanded understanding of plurality. Still haven't worked out which way I'm going to vote for that one.
Meanwhile, I want the spoilers folks to have a happy home. I understand that much has been done to accommodate my generally lack-spoiler viewpoint, and I appreciate it. I hope we work it out so that folks can get what they need.
No actual opinion here as to what that actually is.
Hey -- does anyone know, easily, what the proposal leaderboard looks like? Anyone made more than one? Two?
I had to go look. And, as far as I can tell, there is only one person who has made two proposals. Sophia Brooks made the original proposal on whether or not we should have a formal voting system and then made the proposal wherein we hammered out procedure.
I want to make it clear I bear her no ill will. She was simply the unfortunate soul who could organize our debates into something resembling English.
Yeah, I think we owe Sophia a kidney or something.
Speaking for myself, I don't want even whitefonted hard core spoilers in a spoilage lite thread.
Wolfram is me. For the same reasons he gave:
One accidental uncovering of a whitefont and you've just spoiled an essential plot point for half a season. I don't want to traverse a minefield of hard core spoilers in spoilage lite.
I don't see how Brenda's #2 solves this.
My thought was that people who only wanted lite spoilage wouldn't have to highlight at all, reducing the chance of accidental spoilage, as opposed to all whitefont, where it's very easy to grab more than you want. Not a perfect solution, no, but I think it'd be better than all whitefont all the time.
For myself, I generally either don't care about being spoiled or don't want anything, not even lite spoilage, which puts me more in ita's situation. But it's a compromise I can live with if it helps resolve this. If it won't, all white font would be my preference.
I have nothing on-topic to say, other than this is the second vote in which I have nothing on-topic to say (being from a not-updated-tv-watching across-the-ocean-y audience group prevents me from that). And that's strange - I miss being able to have an opinion.
Also, le nubian? You are dealing with all this bureaublahblah with such consideration to the needs of the participants, really trying for what may be best for the largest number of people, re-drafting things and listening to people whose wishes are so different than yours - I almost wish I could be spoiled for shows I have no idea about, so that I'd get to post with you more in Spoilers.
[Edit: not to say that the other people who proposed votes didn't behave this way as well, because they totally did! Only, usually, I had an opinion to follow and therefore was busy trying to follow that. Now, that I was just reading, I could look at things "from the outside", so to speak.]
(Yeah, even though I can't possibly have an opinion as to what is going on in here, I still skimmed the discussion. I wanted to know what I don't have an opinion about).
(Yeah, even though I can't possibly have an opinion as to what is going on in here, I still skimmed the discussion. I wanted to know what I don't have an opinion about).
Hee. If you only had gone on to express an opinion anyhow Nilly, you'd have just articulated the Buffista motto.
I was just going to say that I made 2 proposals-- but I don't think you owe me a kidney. I also used to be amoung the most talkative, back when there were stats on WX threads. Now, not so much. I am not sure if these are related.
Now-- I loved spoilers lite, but I do have to say I think it was a pretty small community-- me, sumi, Jon B. are really whaty I remember-- so I am not sure that traditional "lite" thread will serve the needs of the most buffistas.
But to propose, table, poll, reconsider, propose again was expressly what I personaly hoped voting would avoid... the drawn out nature of the process.
I'm sorry that was annoying, but I really felt (and feel) the poll needed to be part of that process, and I couldn't (and can't) see how to get a poll up other than through a proposal. Things were stickier than I had hoped, but I don't think two weeks is an unreasonable amount of time to take to make a decision in this forum, especially as more than half of that was polling or voting time.
As for the current proposal... it sounds like the situation that fits the most needs is one hardcore no-whitefont thread, one all whitefont and labeled as to showand spoiler type.
Spoilers: Hardcore we don't want no stinkin' whitefont seems the best plan for the Ho thread. I rarely go there although I enjoy reading the speculation and discussion after the fact. It wouldn't feel the same with whitefont.
Lite: Probably more people read the thread than contributed because it functioned as an annoucement thread. Personally I felt that the matters that ended up in this thread were ok whitefonted in the general discussion thread, but I respect that the virginal need protection.
An all white font all the time labeled thread could be fun with creative use of the spoiler font, but I don't know how long it would be before the novelty wore off.
