preview speculation

??? Isn't that already defined as unspoilery?

Yes, ita, it is. I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to open another can of worms, just as it applied to discussion of articles and stuff that is spoilery. I was trying to cover all bases and just got sloppy.

LeN wants to put converting it to no-whitefont-required to a vote. She's suggesting some sort of alternative for the less wholehearted.

Okay. I keep getting confused between LeN's proposal for a spoiler lite thread, and her proposal to convert the general spoiler thread. It's really two separate proposals.

I mean, if she proposes a ROT-13 spoiler thread and it passes, then, well, that's how it goes.

What's ROT-13?

Defining the light spoiler thread to be added, if it passes, as guest stars, episode titles, authors, and preview speculation in regular font, with exiting cast, tv guide and other entertainment articles and their discussion white-fonted. This would be a general thread, like the general spoilers thread.

That sums it up pretty well. And I think Deena means preview speculation which takes into account other spoiler lite non-whitefonted info.

ROT-13.

What's ROT-13?

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Dude, the new post-munging stuff blew away my translation. whatthe?!

That sums it up pretty well. And I think Deena means preview speculation which takes into account other spoiler lite non-whitefonted info.

Yes. Thank you.

It's really two separate proposals.

It's two separate votes, but I don't know if it has to be on separate proposals? LJ proposed opening various threads, and closing others on her ballot, and there were no objections.

That sums it up pretty well.

How does that account for the Lilah/Lindsey return discrepancy? How sensitive are the usual suspects?

Basically we're here to recreate the past, aren't we? It doesn't seem like anything new is getting any support. This makes me sad. I wasn't part of either community, and maybe if I were I'd be attached to the way they worked and the benefits they provided.

I'm not understanding what would make you happy, ita. Could you rephrase it for me?

I know you've explained it, but it's been a rough day.

It's two separate votes, but I don't know if it has to be on separate proposals? LJ proposed opening various threads, and closing others on her ballot, and there were no objections.

Two separate proposals, not two separate Proposals. Meaning, two paragraphs on the same ballot. I'm sorry if I confused you.

How does that account for the Lilah/Lindsey return discrepancy? How sensitive are the usual suspects.

Some guest stars are going to have significantly more spoiler potential than others. Deena's definition is a guide. The community is quick to jump in and say, hey, that casting spoiler is disproportionately spoilery and I think it should be whitefonted.

Dude, my thread can't co-exist with the current spoilers thread, if that changes as it seems it will.

No, it can't. But I still don't understand why, since we do have white-font, it can't exist in the proposed spoiler thread we don't quite want to call "lite" but haven't yet come up with a better term for.

So then what's the difference between Spoilers and SpoilersLite? The latter is white-fonted and the former isn't? That seems wasteful to me.

The difference would be user-based, I think. It's the difference between going whole hog, and picking and choosing the kind of spoils, for which shows, you want to discuss. I understand what you mean about it being wasteful, except we're looking at a proposal for two threads, anyhow. It seems to me white font allows for both traditional lite-spoilers, and for more serious spoilers, but labeled and in white font.

If there are going to be two threads, then why not have one be hardcore, for all shows, no white font, no warning, heavy spoilage? Why not have the second for those posters who exert more caution in spoiling. They might want white font for various reasons (don't want to know casting surprises, writers, plots; or only want to spoil for certain aspects of certain shows), but because of white font, everyone is covered. You just label your white font with terms like "OC Casting" or "Lost plot" and then the ensuing white fonted spoilerific goodies.

I think the main question is would it get in there at all. Personally, I know I'm way too lazy to be posting spoilers once in the main thread and then again in Lite, whitefonted.

Well, if people want it, it will. I'm with you. I'm too lazy, too worried I'll spoil wrong, and will probably not use the lite thread, because I prefer the no-white-font way. But it sounds like people do want it. Some people like the way the Spoilers 3 thread is, right now. Some people miss the traditional Spoilers Lite. It seems like white font would allow for combining the two.