Dude, my thread can't co-exist with the current spoilers thread, if that changes as it seems it will.

No, it can't. But I still don't understand why, since we do have white-font, it can't exist in the proposed spoiler thread we don't quite want to call "lite" but haven't yet come up with a better term for.

So then what's the difference between Spoilers and SpoilersLite? The latter is white-fonted and the former isn't? That seems wasteful to me.

The difference would be user-based, I think. It's the difference between going whole hog, and picking and choosing the kind of spoils, for which shows, you want to discuss. I understand what you mean about it being wasteful, except we're looking at a proposal for two threads, anyhow. It seems to me white font allows for both traditional lite-spoilers, and for more serious spoilers, but labeled and in white font.

If there are going to be two threads, then why not have one be hardcore, for all shows, no white font, no warning, heavy spoilage? Why not have the second for those posters who exert more caution in spoiling. They might want white font for various reasons (don't want to know casting surprises, writers, plots; or only want to spoil for certain aspects of certain shows), but because of white font, everyone is covered. You just label your white font with terms like "OC Casting" or "Lost plot" and then the ensuing white fonted spoilerific goodies.

I think the main question is would it get in there at all. Personally, I know I'm way too lazy to be posting spoilers once in the main thread and then again in Lite, whitefonted.

Well, if people want it, it will. I'm with you. I'm too lazy, too worried I'll spoil wrong, and will probably not use the lite thread, because I prefer the no-white-font way. But it sounds like people do want it. Some people like the way the Spoilers 3 thread is, right now. Some people miss the traditional Spoilers Lite. It seems like white font would allow for combining the two.

Do you mean what thread I want? Nothing that's going to be considered, so it's really not important. I would have liked a thread where any spoiler for any show and detailed discussion thereof was allowed, all whitefonted. But it's not going to happen -- I get that.

What I'm discussing mostly now is how to clearly define what constitutes okay for a proposed lite thread other than - we know it when we see it, because we knew it when we saw it.

It's the analytic in me. I can't vote for a fuzzy proposal, since I don't know what I'm voting for. I plunk for the status quo.

Do you mean what thread I want? Nothing that's going to be considered, so it's really not important. I would have liked a thread where any spoiler for any show and detailed discussion thereof was allowed, all whitefonted. But it's not going to happen -- I get that.

I don't get it, though. Since we have white font, what is the problem with it?

Meaning, two paragraphs on the same ballot.

That's exactly how it is.

why not have one be hardcore, for all shows, no white font, no warning, heavy spoilage?

I don't see anyone objecting to that.

Why not have the second for those posters who exert more caution in spoiling.

No reason not to. But you do see that there's still nowhere to discuss deep spoilers of a given show without reading deep spoilers of other shows, right? The definition of Lite is pretty clear (and, it seems, entrenched).

Since we have white font, what is the problem with it?

See above -- Deena and Wolfram are talking about something different.

I would have liked a thread where any spoiler for any show and detailed discussion thereof was allowed, all whitefonted.

What were the objections to this?

What were the objections to this?

It's not Lite.

eta:

Deena's description:

guest stars, episode titles, authors, and preview speculation in regular font, with exiting cast, tv guide and other entertainment articles and their discussion white-fonted

That rules out wildfeeds, set visits, discussions with actors, AICN -- a whole mess of stuff.

That's exactly how it is.

The last proposal I saw was:

I propose the addition of a Spoiler Lite thread and I propose the current Spoiler thread be designated as content for "hard core" spoilers and spoiler discussion.

That's one paragraph. If there's another proposal, I missed it.

I would have liked a thread where any spoiler for any show and detailed discussion thereof was allowed, all whitefonted.

So propose it.

All whitefonted, clearly labeled by show/topic spoilers ...

If that is the summary, then it seems #2 hits the bulk of needs. A spoiler-choosy person and can pick and choose, and 'ho can just hit control-a and rock on.

Gus, that's what we have now, and the spoilered mostly dislike it and would like it to be non-whitefonted. (I don't like whitefont myself. I think it's a pain to read, and a bigger pain to type in. It's okay for one or two sentences, but I don't think it works for entire conversations.)

So propose it.

Would have, Wolfram. As I've said, I'm not on that boat anymore -- why bother?

That's one paragraph. If there's another proposal, I missed it.

One paragraph, two proposals. I didn't think your t p was a literal thing.

It's not Lite.

But so...what? Really. I am not meaning to sound like a smart-ass. White font and labels make it all lite in presentation. The user's choice on what to read increases the fat, or keeps it lean.

le nubian, what do you think about this:

Thread 1) No white font, hardcore spoilage. Open discussion, like we used to have in the Buffy & Angel Spoiler thread.

Thread 2) All white font, all white font labeled as to both show, and type of content.

examples:

Buffy, casting spoiler * Faith returns

Angel, plot spoiler Darla is pregnant

Firefly, writer spoiler Minear writes episode 10

Buffy, episode 7 title Once More, With Feeling

TV Guide for Angel finale It's a freaking dragon