No I get that, which is why I've never even considered proposing a Stargate (or, in a similar degree of annoyance, The O.C.) thread just to move the discussion elsewhere. But since it's being discussed, I thought I'd comment.

To answer your question, though, it's more that it would be easier to get what I'd want. Which, since I try not to make larger issues all memememe if it is just, well, me, I wouldn't. The way I use the board is - when I see new posts in a thread I like, I got to it. I've never figured out what the subscribing option does, for instance. So, in the scheme of things, it's a minor annoyance.

I'd still vote for a Stargate or an OC thread in a heartbeat, though, if it ever looked like there was strong support for one and it was proposed. And, as I (sort of) said before, I don't think any new show I like is established enough for me to say the same thing (i.e. LOST). MAYBE and HBO Sunday thread or something. I'm all for waiting for a groundswell of sentiment before starting new show threads. I just don't think they should be discouraged (server/board maintenance issues aside).

Edited cause I'm up to early to be coherent on first pass

when I see new posts in a thread I like, I got to it.

Basically, I do that too. Sometimes I read them, because the posts actually interest me, and sometimes I skip or skim. People discuss movies I don't watch, or books I haven't read, or politics I don't follow, or a million other things.

And in a dedicated show thread, they'll discuss characters I don't like, or plotlines that irritate me, or just have opinions I don't care to dwell on. It wouldn't make the board that much more designed for my individual reading pleasure.

All being said, Natter discussion works for me. I'm perfectly okay with sporadic TV discussion. I'm perfectly okay with bookmarking the first OC/Lost post of an evening, and going back and reading it 4 hours later.

I don't want the board to be a general TV board. I don't particularly fear it, because I'm not getting the sense there's enough volume to do that. Or enough to challenge the board resources. If I'd sensed such a chafing need, then I'd have to bow to the inevitable, but would then be worried about board resources under such a looming increase in volume.

I just don't get any of the whys other than "Well, I'd like it better that way, see."

I just don't get any of the whys other than "Well, I'd like it better that way, see."

Hence, my groundswell comment. I think my two cents, now that I've thought about it a little more, is just to point out that I (and possibly others) would vote for a thread to get discussion away from certain threads, and not just to get it into one of their own.

I just don't get any of the whys other than "Well, I'd like it better that way, see."

Well, why does there have to be any other why?

Even though the OC is the only one of the mentioned shows I watch, I think, I REALLY don't think it would support its own thread -- there's a fair amount of whitefont, but essentially no analysis. It's just not that kind of show. EVEN IF we want to have more non-ME single-show threads, I think we'd want to focus on the obsessive analysis part of our "charter," rather than the "talk about TV" part. Not that a whole thread of Kat foolishly insisting on the hers-ness of Teh Seth wouldn't be entertaining.

why does there have to be any other why?

There doesn't have to be. In general. For me, I have a nebulous idea of "better for the board" and "better for me."

I don't make proposals based on the latter.

There are so many "I'd like it betters" I could suggest, but I don't think anyone else cares about why I like it better. I have an unprecise idea of the borderline between a lot of Is versus the we that is the synergy of the board.

Nothing so far in the pro- side of the discussion is talking about the board, except for the threat of stagnation, which is undefined and unsubstantiated, so I can't use it as weight in my decision.

Food thread, exercise thread, cut and paste thread, whining thread, unedited thread, there are a million "Well that'd be fun" ideas out there. Why have some flown and others not? I don't know. Maybe they will, later. Maybe Buffistas will change beyond recognition. Maybe we'll gain and lose members because of it.

Stuff does happen. But while I'm part of the decision it's not unreasonable for me to want to be given a good reason to vote for things other people want, is it?

On the other hand, the subtag of Box Set is "Discussions of other shows we watch. May contain HoYay." And that fits Lost....

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On what other hand, DCJ? A proposal to put Lost in Boxed Set isn't on the table.

And if that's all it took, The OC would have made a home in there a while back. And CSI, and a number of other shows.

It's not like that tag says the SHOWS may contain HoYay. It says the THREAD may contain HoYay.

But while I'm part of the decision it's not unreasonable for me to want to be given a good reason to vote for things other people want, is it?

Oh, sure, you can ask for reasons that are based on something other than "well, I think it'd be cool to have a topic where I can talk about XYZ with Buffistas," and if there aren't any that satisfy you then obviously it's your prerogative to argue and vote against the proposal. I just wanted to stick my head up and say publically that I think "I think it'd be cool" is a completely legitimate reason to make a proposal.

I just wanted to stick my head up and say publically that I think "I think it'd be cool" is a completely legitimate reason to make a proposal.

I'm not challenging the legitimacy of the proposal. But this discussion is about how people feel about it coming to pass, and their decision process, right?

A legitimate proposal != an automatic yes vote from me.