why does there have to be any other why?

There doesn't have to be. In general. For me, I have a nebulous idea of "better for the board" and "better for me."

I don't make proposals based on the latter.

There are so many "I'd like it betters" I could suggest, but I don't think anyone else cares about why I like it better. I have an unprecise idea of the borderline between a lot of Is versus the we that is the synergy of the board.

Nothing so far in the pro- side of the discussion is talking about the board, except for the threat of stagnation, which is undefined and unsubstantiated, so I can't use it as weight in my decision.

Food thread, exercise thread, cut and paste thread, whining thread, unedited thread, there are a million "Well that'd be fun" ideas out there. Why have some flown and others not? I don't know. Maybe they will, later. Maybe Buffistas will change beyond recognition. Maybe we'll gain and lose members because of it.

Stuff does happen. But while I'm part of the decision it's not unreasonable for me to want to be given a good reason to vote for things other people want, is it?

On the other hand, the subtag of Box Set is "Discussions of other shows we watch. May contain HoYay." And that fits Lost....

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On what other hand, DCJ? A proposal to put Lost in Boxed Set isn't on the table.

And if that's all it took, The OC would have made a home in there a while back. And CSI, and a number of other shows.

It's not like that tag says the SHOWS may contain HoYay. It says the THREAD may contain HoYay.

But while I'm part of the decision it's not unreasonable for me to want to be given a good reason to vote for things other people want, is it?

Oh, sure, you can ask for reasons that are based on something other than "well, I think it'd be cool to have a topic where I can talk about XYZ with Buffistas," and if there aren't any that satisfy you then obviously it's your prerogative to argue and vote against the proposal. I just wanted to stick my head up and say publically that I think "I think it'd be cool" is a completely legitimate reason to make a proposal.

I just wanted to stick my head up and say publically that I think "I think it'd be cool" is a completely legitimate reason to make a proposal.

I'm not challenging the legitimacy of the proposal. But this discussion is about how people feel about it coming to pass, and their decision process, right?

A legitimate proposal != an automatic yes vote from me.

I think "I think it would be cool" is a fine starting point for discussion. It isn't a reason to change the board, but if a majority of the board ALSO think it's cool and feel it would make for a better board, then we got something. If not, then it's just an opinion, basically.

Then there's no disagreement here. Sorry, ita--I was generalizing out from what you wanted for yourself to what I thought you thought should be a Rule Of Proposal-Making. My misunderstanding.

On what other hand, DCJ? A proposal to put Lost in Boxed Set isn't on the table.

Actually, prior discussion has indeed included the idea that boxed set could be a home. I haven't checked to see if it was discussed here, but it has been discussed here or in Bureaucracy. In fact, that was "the other hand" I was referring to.

I have expressed that Boxed Set was a reasonable place to put Lost in the past, and was reiterating it, because I still believe it to be a viable alternative. Are not alternatives to the proposal things to be talked about?

Sorry, I thought this was an open discussion of a future for programs such as Lost and whether we should make threads for them or not.

If adding Lost to Boxed Set addresses LJ's worries about board stagnation and people having difficulty (including sifting through Boxed Set) finding their show discussion, then I see your point.

But I don't see the through line, and I don't see what your interpretation of the tag has to offer in support of that position.

I just wanted to make it known that I'm not ignoring this conversation, but I don't feel like I have anything new to say, and doubt I will until we've done the polls.