That those things that got us started are gone. While I think we need to keep threads going for them, because there will always be discussion, it's a type of obsolescence to be unwilling to move on from that. Either that, or freakishness a la old school Trekkies.

Move on from what? You state that we should keep those threads going because there will always be discussion, but that it's obsolescense to be unwilling...I'm confused, again.

Firefly was canceled, but there were tens of thousands of posts about it. Movie is coming out.

Tim has a new show coming out this Winter.

We are like Trekkies, we're dedicated to obsessive discussions of Buffy, Angel, and Firefly. That obsessive nature is Trekkie like. I'm certainly no embarassed by it, those threads aren't really as active as Natter or Bitches by a long shot, where we talk about life outside television, mostly. Adding a half a dozen teevee threads just moves us closer to TWoPness. That's not our charter.

Which, Jon, could I email the poll language to you?

Yes. Profile addy is fine.

Lyra, I am glad you tabled the proposal, in favor of taking the poll. The more I thought about it, the more I realized I couldn't ever choose between "0" "1" and "2", when I didn't even know what shows were going to either be shut down, or fill those slots. Thank you.

Allyson, I see this as a rather backasswards way of doing this, but I still think it will be useful. This conversation has come up a few times. It'll be nice to see, in a non-binding way, what most Buffistas (who care to vote) think. Only a handful of us ever participate in the conversation.

Insent, Jon.

Cindy, thanks. I think I made it more backasswards than it needed to be -- I was trying to simplify, and ended up complicating, as often happens.

Allyson, I don't know how to argue with you. To me, there's a whole moving-or-dead shark analogy here -- we can add new threads to reflect new obsessions, or we can stagnate. I understand you don't feel new, non-ME show threads are necessary; if most people agree, the poll results will reflect that, and I'll shut up about this whole thing.

we can add new threads to reflect new obsessions, or we can stagnate

You really think it's that clear cut and binary? Are we stagnating now? What are the signs?

Cindy, thanks. I think I made it more backasswards than it needed to be -- I was trying to simplify, and ended up complicating, as often happens.

Well, given some of the decisions we've made in our usual assforewards way, I'm not sure backasswards (which I meant to type as "bassackwards" because it's less of a judgment, to me, anyhow) is a bad approach for us, right now. The topic keeps coming up. The topic keeps dying (and I think that's because even the Buffistas who might want a new thread for any given show agree we don't want to become TWoP). It'll be good to find out, if how we're doing things now is what most people who'll vote want, or not.

Having a penchant for numbers and a weird running counter in my head, I have to point out that over half of the latest Natter 500 have been Lost whitefonted.

I would call that a market.

Gus, I counted 62. I could be off, but off by 190?

Adding a half a dozen teevee threads just moves us closer to TWoPness.

That's what I meant when I said that it seems like this proposal is really about reshaping the board.

And frankly, maybe some of my personal resistance to creating new show threads is that I for one *haven't* discovered a new obsession, and my suspicion is that creating a thread for it ain't gonna make it appear.

Gus, I counted 62. I could be off, but off by 190?

Holy crap.

t takes hammer to weird in-head counter

t tables examination of what post filter was at work during skim

Still, better than 32% of the posts in 500 seems significant.