Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 05, 2004 11:22:50 am PDT #4468 of 10289
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'd feel a lot better if this proposal was about "this specific show has been generating a lot of discussion and I feel it warrants its own thread." As opposed to, "what shows would you like to see a thread for."

This is my view as well. My personal reaction to Lost makes me think that I'll be enthralled enough by it for at least a season or two to make 50+ posts a week if there's a lively discussion. But I'm not sure I've seen enough reflections of that level of involvement to justify a new thread. And I'm not sure that (apologies to Allyson) Fury's involvement is enough of a draw to justify the same sort of creator loyalty that we showed with the creation of the Minearverse thread.


Kristen - Oct 05, 2004 11:23:16 am PDT #4469 of 10289

Well, but I think this came about specifically because Lost has been generating a lot of discussion in Natter lately, more so than any other new show so far. Am I wrong about that?

You're not wrong about that but this proposal isn't Lost specific. If it were...I would still think it was premature but I'd feel less...concerned, I guess, about the proposal.

And I'm not sure that (apologies to Allyson) Fury's involvement is enough of a draw to justify the same sort of creator loyalty that we showed with the creation of the Minearverse thread.

Cranky bastards who don't post get no Furyworld threads.


Lyra Jane - Oct 05, 2004 11:27:18 am PDT #4470 of 10289
Up with the sun

That doesn't really change what the front page looks like, though. That's what I mean by user interface

Ah, gotcha. But is there any way to fix that, short of dropping a whole bunch of threads or building folders (which is technically unfeasible, if I understand things correctly)? Because I agree with you that it's not the prettiest front page, but I don't want to make decisions based on that if there's no fix.

Also -- I feel like I've heard from enough people who would like to delay starting the threads until November or later that I'm wondering if it's worth voting on now at all. Is anyone a strong proponent of starting at least some threads as soon as possible? It seemed to me yesterday, when this all started, that people were pretty annoyed by the influx of TV posts in Natter; if the consensus is that we can tolerate it for a month, I'd rather not vote until then, given the strong possibility our TV tastes may shift during that time period.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2004 11:28:10 am PDT #4471 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think there's a single show (and I include my everloving OC among them) this season that warrants a thread. Not yet, anyway, and I wouldn't know which to vote for for a couple months at best.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2004 11:29:35 am PDT #4472 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But is there any way to fix that, short of dropping a whole bunch of threads or building folders (which is technically unfeasible, if I understand things correctly)?

It's not technically infeasible, it's just practically so. Which is why I noted it wouldn't break anything (the volume may be another issue, but honestly, if I thought there was enough volume to cripple the site, I'd think there was enough volume to justify threads. And I don't).


Lyra Jane - Oct 05, 2004 11:31:20 am PDT #4473 of 10289
Up with the sun

It's not technically infeasible, it's just practically so.

What is the difference? I would read "technically infeasible" as meaning "the code won't do that" and "practically infeasible" as meaning "the code will do that, but it would take too much programming time to be a real option," but I don't want to put words in your mouth.


Kate P. - Oct 05, 2004 11:31:50 am PDT #4474 of 10289
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I'm fine with waiting a month or two and revisiting the idea if/when the discussion seems overwhelming.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2004 11:32:19 am PDT #4475 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The code can absolutely do so. However, we're backlogged in the changes we actually have had people write code on, so new functionality is a ways down the road.


brenda m - Oct 05, 2004 11:33:34 am PDT #4476 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hmm. It looks to me like the shows we're throwing around seem to be clumped on certain nights - HBO Sundays, Lost and Alias on [memfault], and Thursdays with OC, Survivor, etc.

As far as I can tell, the primary issues we're trying to resolve are a)too much whitefont in Natter, b)too much whitefont period, and c)difficulty locating dicussion on shows you want to discuss.

What about one thread for What I'm Watching Right Now, with Nillys to the start of each day's Watch and Post and post-ep discussion? Since you could find specific ep discussion fairly easily, I don't think we'd need much in the way of whitefont since time-delayed folk could skip back and forth fairly easily.


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2004 11:34:51 am PDT #4477 of 10289
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

HBO Sundays, Lost and Alias on [memfault]

Lost is on Wednesday, and Alias is on Sunday. They're clumped by creator.