So, wait...if there were the sort of in-depth discussions and whatnot that you yearn for going on in Literary, you wouldn't involve yourself in them?

They aren't going on in Literary. See above for why- "I think it has to do with my brain being single focused and wanting to discuss X right NOW and not wade through stuff to get there. Same reason Literary doesn't work quite right either. I want discussion, not just, I read X what did you think?"-buffista b

You said "I never claimed that proponents of a book club thread would abandon Literary or not use it the way it is right now."

I was saying I wouldn't use it the way it's used right now.

Actually, ita (and everybody), what I'm proposing is that we act like we're on a budget if we're on a budget and prioritize between the threads we have and the threads we may want, sort of like bon bon's argument upthread about how we can't be all things to all people. Let the community decide democratically whether the new thread is more important that any one of the existing threads. That's what I mean by internal review. For instance, I may like my back-up guitar very much, even though I only play it occasionally, but if I want a new effects pedal, I have to choose between selling my back-up guitar and getting the new effects pedal. Of course, this is more complicated when other people are involved, but the concept is the same.

That's what I mean by internal review.

I get what you meant. And I return you to the whole "closing threads is hard" thing.

Once a thread is created, it develops a subcommunity, and we haven't quite become the community that can yank threads willy nilly -- the consolidation still has people bitter.

We do though, have a quotable thread that is slated to close soon. Does that make any difference?

An either this or that vote would be a different monster, than what we are looking at here, though.

I guess this vote will go down and if anyone wants to brave it, a possible threads to close discussion can start in Bureaublah. In the meantime back-end work continues and maybe it will help.

Well, I think we understand each other, ita. I just disagree that hardness and potential bitterness should close the discussion. I personally feel particularly bitter about the Literary thread flap, but, y'know, I'm still trying to be a part of this community for better or worse.

I just disagree that hardness and potential bitterness should close the discussion.

If you're willing to spearhead it, I thought you should be aware of the history.

Me, I've been there, done that, not eager to return.

Just to be sure I understand the situation wrt resources:

Right now we are on a dedicated server. We have lots of room but it is expensive. We want to not have a dedicated server in the future. That may mean reducing traffic if we let things get too out of hand now.

Is that right?

If you're willing to spearhead it, I thought you should be aware of the history.

Not I! Too ignorant about the other threads.

Personally, I'd fight to keep FF open. It's on topic fairly regularly and there is a movie coming up in the not too distant future. Also, it's an established thread within this community. And, you know, mentioned on our front page and all.

If someone wanted to propose to close Minearverse [this one we might want to put on extended hiatus until DVDs come out, Moon goes into production or Tim does another show], Lovesick Ass [though I'd probably ask to wait until after Comicon so people can talk about the eps they see there] or Spoilers...well, I'd be sad to see them go but I wouldn't oppose the idea.