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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Hayden - Jul 07, 2004 9:16:27 am PDT #4184 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Actually, ita (and everybody), what I'm proposing is that we act like we're on a budget if we're on a budget and prioritize between the threads we have and the threads we may want, sort of like bon bon's argument upthread about how we can't be all things to all people. Let the community decide democratically whether the new thread is more important that any one of the existing threads. That's what I mean by internal review. For instance, I may like my back-up guitar very much, even though I only play it occasionally, but if I want a new effects pedal, I have to choose between selling my back-up guitar and getting the new effects pedal. Of course, this is more complicated when other people are involved, but the concept is the same.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2004 9:21:37 am PDT #4185 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's what I mean by internal review.

I get what you meant. And I return you to the whole "closing threads is hard" thing.

Once a thread is created, it develops a subcommunity, and we haven't quite become the community that can yank threads willy nilly -- the consolidation still has people bitter.


brenda m - Jul 07, 2004 9:23:22 am PDT #4186 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

We do though, have a quotable thread that is slated to close soon. Does that make any difference?


msbelle - Jul 07, 2004 9:23:46 am PDT #4187 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

An either this or that vote would be a different monster, than what we are looking at here, though.

I guess this vote will go down and if anyone wants to brave it, a possible threads to close discussion can start in Bureaublah. In the meantime back-end work continues and maybe it will help.


Hayden - Jul 07, 2004 9:25:50 am PDT #4188 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Well, I think we understand each other, ita. I just disagree that hardness and potential bitterness should close the discussion. I personally feel particularly bitter about the Literary thread flap, but, y'know, I'm still trying to be a part of this community for better or worse.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2004 9:28:00 am PDT #4189 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just disagree that hardness and potential bitterness should close the discussion.

If you're willing to spearhead it, I thought you should be aware of the history.

Me, I've been there, done that, not eager to return.


-t - Jul 07, 2004 9:30:22 am PDT #4190 of 10289
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Just to be sure I understand the situation wrt resources:

Right now we are on a dedicated server. We have lots of room but it is expensive. We want to not have a dedicated server in the future. That may mean reducing traffic if we let things get too out of hand now.

Is that right?


Hayden - Jul 07, 2004 9:37:14 am PDT #4191 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

If you're willing to spearhead it, I thought you should be aware of the history.

Not I! Too ignorant about the other threads.


Kristen - Jul 07, 2004 9:38:52 am PDT #4192 of 10289

Personally, I'd fight to keep FF open. It's on topic fairly regularly and there is a movie coming up in the not too distant future. Also, it's an established thread within this community. And, you know, mentioned on our front page and all.

If someone wanted to propose to close Minearverse [this one we might want to put on extended hiatus until DVDs come out, Moon goes into production or Tim does another show], Lovesick Ass [though I'd probably ask to wait until after Comicon so people can talk about the eps they see there] or Spoilers...well, I'd be sad to see them go but I wouldn't oppose the idea.


Daisy Jane - Jul 07, 2004 9:40:10 am PDT #4193 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

If having a new thread isn't going to break the system, it should just be a consideration right? Not the only consideration? (I think maybe that's what I was getting at when I said "ita's always anti") I feel like that's what it's becoming.