I cannot describe how much I do NOT want to get back into the, "how about if we describe it this way? Does it make sense now?" I'm getting right back into the annoyed place of whenever that was before about this same stupid issue. I really don't see the value of having to have this annoying conversation AGAIN when we can just do the damned runoff.

I's cool. BTW (and this is not an explanation, just my own fevered imaginings), I've taken to imagining PV like a big ol' hall with banners around the sides, here saying stuff like "SIX ROOLZ!!" or "THREE CHEERS FOR... THREE!!". (And one saying "NO GURLS" with the 'R' backwards, but that's just because I've been reading Calvin and Hobbes.) Then everyone runs for their favourite banner, and stands under it, hootin' and hollerin' (hurling of faeces will be frowned upon, to say the least). Then some guy in an official suit and probably looking like that professor from The Paperchase walks over to the stand with the fewest people, and says something like "This stand is closed! You must all find new corners!"

Then all the other corners start cheering and trying to get all the people to come over to their corner, promising to pick them first for softball, that sort of thing, and so everyone finds a new corner. Except some people don't want to leave, 'cause there's only OTP, y'know, so they stage a sit-in and blow raspberries at everyone else.

Then the Paperchase guy goes and shuts down another corner until there are two corners left. And then they fight it out with a tug-of-war. And all the people who stayed at their original corners start doing a slow handclap or a Mexican wave.

Then we all break for Kool-Aid, while Wolfram and Gandalfe pants the professor.

I cannot describe how much I do NOT want to get back into the, "how about if we describe it this way? Does it make sense now?" I'm getting right back into the annoyed place of whenever that was before about this same stupid issue. I really don't see the value of having to have this annoying conversation AGAIN when we can just do the damned runoff.

God! This is exactly how I feel, Jesse.

And I have to admit, I'm not with the rest of you on PV. I don't want to do it. Period. Part of it has to do with the fact that I am aggravated and pissed because I feel like I am being ignored. I was asked about it and I said, no I don't want to do it and why. Jesse responded she didn't want to do it. Then there is a post about how" no one is against it, no one is blocking consensus, let's do it." Except, hello. I'm against. Jesse is against. Burrell said she prefered a runoff. So, I'm thinking it's not true to say no one is against it.

Well you know what. I don't want to do it. I don't trust the process right now. As I've said many times before I would prefer doing a runoff if necessary.

I'm also VERY FIRMLY AGAINST IT.

VERY FIRMLY.

So you peeps keeping track at home have another voice on the issue.

Hi.

My name is ita, and I have little interest in preferential voting.

Why P.M.? Why are you against trying it this one time?

Because I'm against it, period, and I'm against "just this once" on general principle.

I don't really feel I need to justify this "I AM AGAINST IT, I DON'T WANT TO TRY IT "JUST THIS ONCE"", because, yo--I'm AGAINST IT.

I'm not going to want it, PERIOD.

So...um... do I go ahead and post the link to the ballow tonight or not? Cause I really don't care if we do it this way or in a run off if need be.

ita - do you have a reason?

So, Jon, do our reasons need to past muster before they are recognized as legitimate?

'Cause saying "What's your reason?" seems to imply that unless we can satisfy YOUR criteria as a legitimate reason then.... it doesn't matter?

edited for homonym issue

I'm against "just this once" on general principle.

Well, I'm against princples right now. I'm big on Trial and Error and giving us room to make the mistakes and also to take stuff out of theoretical and apply it practically. Because I think half the craziness comes from trying to anticipate all the eventualities beforehand, when it's no Big Fucking Deal to try one thing and then either discard it or build on it.