I didn't think it was a time for a big vote/discussion when Aimee made her propasal, but I'm now very glad she did, because I have so enjoyed and been touched by the passion, wit, generosity, and intelligence shown in all the discussion about this subject

I'm with Robin. (So hard not to say, "What Scrappy said!" anymore...)

And for myself, I don't think I want a Politics thread, for many of the reasons so well-articulated upthread. Although I'm not much worried about trolls, actually. We've been troll-free, pretty much, and I wouldn't expect that to change.

However I fear that if we had a Politics thread, I would find myself compelled to read and post in it, occasionally, and it wouldn't be good for my blood pressure.

This is a pop-culture board more than it's anything else, since Buffy ended, and if we're going to expand I'd rather we expanded that way.

Anyway.

I've read JZ's posts and others who are adamantly against the creation of the thread and I've taken them very seriously. It's because of the strong negative reaction to the idea of the politics thread that I feel the most important thing for the thread, if created, is an easy and quick, discussion-free closing of the thread. Whether that's an up/down vote after three months, or two months, or less; or an agreement that if a single Warning is issued in that board it gets closed. I prefer the former.

I'm really on the fence about this thread now, but I'm not ready to vote against it. My biggest reason to vote for it is, like Victor said before, I don't think it's going to be as bad as people fear, and I tend to take a try-it-first approach since I haven't had the same negative vibe from politics discussion on this board that others have (with one notable exception.) My biggest reason to vote against it is, like Hec and others said, we're a pop-culture board, not a board for everything. And once it's created it may prove to be very addictive for some people and very difficult to uncreate.

I'm torn.

I'm torn.

So, what happens if the abstentions carry again? I don't recall.

Seriously, I'm more concerned that, whether the thread happens or not, people just remember to tread lightly with one another when talking about these kind of subjects.

Abstentions don't count for anything other than quorum. So if there are two yeas, one nay, and ninety-two abstentions, the yeas win. (I think, anyway.)

As an aside on the Boxed Set thread, I had to unsubscribe because I was only in there for snarky SV talk and it had become very few and far between with all the other stuff. It's a really minor loss to me, though.

it had become very few and far between with all the other stuff

I wouldn't blame the other stuff, though.

I'd blame SV. I can't get emotional about it anymore, even to snark.

I'm still planning to vote for the thread. I think a trial run at it is a good idea.

Abstentions don't count for anything other than quorum. So if there are two yeas, one nay, and ninety-two abstentions, the yeas win. (I think, anyway.)

That is correct.

OK, Do I remember correctly that Sean volunteered to count votes? If so, ita needs to set up the mail forwarding. ita -- once Sean confirms, can you set it up ASAP so that we can test it out before voting starts? IIRC, we had trouble with that during the last vote.

Aimée -- What time would you like voting to start tomorrow? If you want to start voting during the day tomorrow, I'd like to have the final ballot text tonight because I can't guarantee that I'll be able to work on this while I'm at my job. If you don't want voting to start until the evening, then you can get the final text to me anytime tomorrow.