Assuming the profile address is okay, votes are pointing to Sean.
Sunnydale's got too many demons and not enough retail outlets.
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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
§ ita § - Apr 04, 2004 5:49:05 pm PDT #3777 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Miracleman - Apr 04, 2004 5:51:12 pm PDT #3778 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I'm not sure Aimee will be able to give you the vote text tonight. Her plane gets in at 9, we'll be home 9:30-9:45. But I'm sure she'll have it for you early tomorrow.
Jon B. - Apr 04, 2004 5:52:43 pm PDT #3779 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Thanks MM.
Sean K - Apr 04, 2004 6:11:40 pm PDT #3780 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
And yes, I volunteered to count votes. So by all means, fire away.
jengod - Apr 04, 2004 7:39:48 pm PDT #3781 of 10289
Up with Politics, sez me.
DavidS - Apr 04, 2004 7:43:03 pm PDT #3782 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Up with Politics, sez me.
counts Jen's vote as Politics? Up Yours!
Connie Neil - Apr 04, 2004 8:17:26 pm PDT #3783 of 10289
brillig
Politics. Bring it.
moonlit - Apr 05, 2004 6:14:21 am PDT #3784 of 10289
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell
If it's not too late to add my two cents..?
BTW these are just points, I think the important arguments have pretty much been made.
From the perspective of a different time-zone (and different TV shows and series) it is often difficult to participate in many of the interesting and clever socio-political discussions that pop up in various places here on the board, especially if boredom, displeasure or disgruntlement has already been expressed and the thread moved on. I do understand that it happens with other topics as well, that most things come around again and that people can still pick up points hours and days later, but with the contentious nature of politics it often seems better to err on the side of caution.
As someone who seemed to provoke a couple of the earlier political skirmishes I can see the concern about conflict and unpleasantness and I have no real experience of any other boards. I also understand the rationale regarding the pop-culture context and history of the board but I can't help but wonder how many of your new TV shows we'll ever get to see. Yes there's still music and movies and books but ... it just seems a shame when there are less things to share, fewer lines of communication. Oh, and that bit that Victor said about politics and pop culture being entwined, I agree with that too.
So yeah, I'd like to see a politics thread where things can be discussed at greater depth or length without upsetting those around them, where the debate can proceed at a more thoughtful pace moving between ideology and trends, theory and reality, and where ideas and knowledge can be shared and debated.
But I really can't argue against any of the concerns.
signed, the trainee senior high school politics and international relations teacher who's wondering if her career choice was a wise idea :)
Aims - Apr 05, 2004 7:11:47 am PDT #3785 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Jon, I have sent the ballot text to your profile addy.
Jon B. - Apr 05, 2004 7:18:37 am PDT #3786 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Got it. I'm about to send you a reply.