Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 12:12:42 pm PST #373 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jesse - are you cool with doing it this once to see how it works out?


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:15:40 pm PST #374 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am fine with doing it. But I've always been fine with trying it. I was never one of the people against it. Those people, presumably, are still against it and I'd really rather not get into this whole stupid thing all over again. If the results will end up the same, and the process is only marginally more difficult, why not just let it go?


askye - Mar 24, 2003 12:16:49 pm PST #375 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

Jesse, it took me a while to figure this out. But it works like this:

3 mths 4 mths 6 mts

4 mth & 6mths tie.

In order to break the tie the 3 mths votes are looked at to see what the second choice votes were and then those are counted to break the tie.

So if I, hypothetically, picked 3 mths, 4mths, 6 mths. Then 4mths would be counted for the tie breaker because that was my second place vote.

This would be easier to describe with pictures.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2003 12:16:59 pm PST #376 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think I like Jon's ballot better, but I am not sure why I find it clearer, because Type's really is.

Weird.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:19:23 pm PST #377 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I cannot describe how much I do NOT want to get back into the, "how about if we describe it this way? Does it make sense now?" I'm getting right back into the annoyed place of whenever that was before about this same stupid issue. I really don't see the value of having to have this annoying conversation AGAIN when we can just do the damned runoff.

And um, monkey-grooming gestures all around.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 12:23:24 pm PST #378 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Well, I think that Gar tried the rewrite because he thought that it would be clearer to you, Jesse. Thanks fer nothin' Gar! (grrrr) ;)

If you understand mine, and no one has any other, different, issues with it, then let's go with it.


askye - Mar 24, 2003 12:25:54 pm PST #379 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be annoying.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:29:00 pm PST #380 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It's not you, askye. It's not you, Jon and Gar. It's just the whole thing.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 12:29:43 pm PST #381 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jon's is fine. And yes. We don't yet have a consenus, just a consensus among those of us posting. We need the "single-ballot runoff is the devils work" people - those who publicly voice hatred for the idea - to come on and say they are willing to live with it, just this once . And I hope they will agree; but if they do not; if they block consensus, then we need to move on and do multi-ballot run-off. I hope someone gets the word to them so that they come on and agree or come on and block consensus fairly soon.

I think if they do block consensus, there should not be further discussion at this time; we should move on; given that I hope that any blocking of consensus will be done calmly, and in a doblerized fashion, along the lines of "I strong disagree; let's have a multi-ballot run-off". And if that happens we will accept it.

And regardless we should make sure the question of how to handle run-offs makes the queue as soon as possible.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:33:42 pm PST #382 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think if they do block consensus, there should not be further discussion at this time; we should move on; given that I hope that any blocking of consensus will be done calmly, and in a doblerized fashion, along the lines of "I strong disagree; let's have a multi-ballot run-off". And if that happens we will accept it.

I'm trying to block this "consensus" of four people right now. I do not think we need to bother doing anything other than a multi-ballot runoff for this issue.