I think that if all the talk related to the OC regularly landed in that thread, it would bring into question the nature of that thread.

But, just like might happen in Jossverse, it didn't take. So I don't know if it's a useful scenario. The thread auto-nannied.

Because I do think there's a necessary injection of new content brought in by being Joss and Tim fans. It enlivens discussion and enlarges our vocabulary with new phrases and pumps up enthusiasm.

Fair point. The looming season brings us little to coalesce around. Tim's got (hopefully) "Wonderfalls" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," and Joss has "Serenity" and "Astonishing X-Men."

Two movies that won't be out for a bit, one endangered TV show and a comic book which Joss won't write for too terribly long. And no Buffyverse at all aside from scattered comics and books.

I'm forced to agree with Jon that pop culture, more than anything else, has been at the center of this board. That being said, I'm less than concerned as to how it's broken up thread-wise, so long as the central themes are maintained. And, just to make my position even more ambivalent, I have a whole writing career built on the concept that the political and the cultural (even--and sometimes especially--the pop cultural) are by their very nature entwined. (Reference--everything ever written by Victor Infante since about 1994.)

Again, I'm not taking aside in the what goes in what thread game. I'm just saying that, really, it's a game you'll never win for long.

Is it out of line if I ask if we move this to bureau? ita seemed to try to get us to scoot elsewhere, but the conversation was going pretty strongly, so I get why it didn't move, then.

If it's not out of line, I'd like to ask that for Aimee's sake, we move it, please. She's going to come back and need to draft a proposal, or at least review the arguments pro and con the politics thread.

If I am out of line, never mind. La lalala la la la

I'm forced to agree with Jon

Don't strain yourself. ;)

I have a whole writing career built on the concept that the political and the cultural (even--and sometimes especially--the pop cultural) are by their very nature entwined.

I agree -- that's why I don't like the idea of a separate Politics thread. I worry that, within that thread, they will get de-twined and the long-term effect on our culture won't be pretty.

If it's not out of line, I'd like to ask that for Aimee's sake, we move it, please. She's going to come back and need to draft a proposal, or at least review the arguments pro and con the politics thread.

As I said, I think it's germane to the Politics Thread discussion. It wouldn't be the first time that a proposal in here sparked discussion which had a different outcome than just the proposed vote.

But I don't really have anything else to add. It feels right to think about b.org maintaining a pop culture focus, with thoughtful, snarky, funny and subversive discussion around that. Out of which grows the larger community.

As I said, I think it's germane to the Politics Thread discussion. It wouldn't be the first time that a proposal in here sparked discussion which had a different outcome than just the proposed vote.

I'm sorry, Hec. I either skimmed over that, or forgot. Never mind, then.

Don't strain yourself. ;)

Mom! Jon's making me agree with him! Make him stooooop!

I'm sorry, Hec. I either skimmed over that, or forgot. Never mind, then.

Nah, it's okay. I'm just going to go over to Box Set and give DXM shit for bringing up Andromeda.

It's Friday, you know. Make sure you bring DX a Pimm's Cup.

I was just watching Andromeda while waiting for Stargate to start. Besides, it's not the first time it's been discussed in there, or in the threads from which Boxed Set was cobbled together.