No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Apr 02, 2004 3:05:17 pm PST #3720 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm forced to agree with Jon

Don't strain yourself. ;)

I have a whole writing career built on the concept that the political and the cultural (even--and sometimes especially--the pop cultural) are by their very nature entwined.

I agree -- that's why I don't like the idea of a separate Politics thread. I worry that, within that thread, they will get de-twined and the long-term effect on our culture won't be pretty.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 3:09:14 pm PST #3721 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If it's not out of line, I'd like to ask that for Aimee's sake, we move it, please. She's going to come back and need to draft a proposal, or at least review the arguments pro and con the politics thread.

As I said, I think it's germane to the Politics Thread discussion. It wouldn't be the first time that a proposal in here sparked discussion which had a different outcome than just the proposed vote.

But I don't really have anything else to add. It feels right to think about b.org maintaining a pop culture focus, with thoughtful, snarky, funny and subversive discussion around that. Out of which grows the larger community.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 02, 2004 3:25:46 pm PST #3722 of 10289
What is even happening?

As I said, I think it's germane to the Politics Thread discussion. It wouldn't be the first time that a proposal in here sparked discussion which had a different outcome than just the proposed vote.

I'm sorry, Hec. I either skimmed over that, or forgot. Never mind, then.


victor infante - Apr 02, 2004 3:32:22 pm PST #3723 of 10289
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Don't strain yourself. ;)

Mom! Jon's making me agree with him! Make him stooooop!


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 3:33:39 pm PST #3724 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm sorry, Hec. I either skimmed over that, or forgot. Never mind, then.

Nah, it's okay. I'm just going to go over to Box Set and give DXM shit for bringing up Andromeda.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 02, 2004 3:43:13 pm PST #3725 of 10289
What is even happening?

It's Friday, you know. Make sure you bring DX a Pimm's Cup.


DXMachina - Apr 02, 2004 4:26:57 pm PST #3726 of 10289
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I was just watching Andromeda while waiting for Stargate to start. Besides, it's not the first time it's been discussed in there, or in the threads from which Boxed Set was cobbled together.


Jon B. - Apr 02, 2004 4:40:55 pm PST #3727 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yeah, but it sucks. :P


Miracleman - Apr 02, 2004 4:47:13 pm PST #3728 of 10289
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Um, I'm on the side of "let's discuss the proposal" and leave the TV discussion for another time or thread or make another proposal or something.

As I said, I think it's germane to the Politics Thread discussion. It wouldn't be the first time that a proposal in here sparked discussion which had a different outcome than just the proposed vote.

Yeah, that's great...can we make it easier on the proposer and try to limit that? Lightbulb was opened to discuss the Politics thread proposal, let's try and get through that without getting too sidetracked.


DXMachina - Apr 02, 2004 4:50:02 pm PST #3729 of 10289
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

As far as the Politics thread, I'm with Jon and Victor. I have no objections to adding new threads, and I don't think there the technical issues are sufficient to warrant against it. I don't think the conversation will get out of control. I'm also not all that concerned that a horde of trolls will descend upon us.

I dislike discussing politics, and would never subscribe to a politics thread. I initially thought I might vote for it this time around, but then I realized that I was only considering it because I saw it as a way to exile the political talk to it's own little corner of the board where I didn't have to read it. That's a lousy reason to vote in favor, IMO. I may not like it, but I'd rather skim.

We've never been a general purpose board. As has been noted, we started with TV only, and branched out into other areas of popular culture as we grew. We originally added the natter thread mostly to take some of the pressure off the show threads so people could keep up with them. I just don't think a politics thread fits this board any better than a sports thread would.