We kinda knew we might have some additional tv discussion there, we just didn't want to make it a Big Important Issue where the existence of the thread itself would make it inherently a general tv thread.

It is this very attitude that I consider hand-waving and denial. The dainty little steps around what to put in the slug. But it is the de facto genre TV show, and I'd just as soon see it labeled as such. And if genre tv shows get their own thread (which they essentially) do, then how is that fair that other shows don't? Short answer: it isn't fair. And it's completely arbitrary and flies in the face of folks who say they don't want a general TV thread. There's no defense for it except precedence and grandfathering. But now I'm saying grandfathering has created inequities.

Is it surprising grandfathering created inequity? You take a system that's out of equilibrium, freeze bits and try and ensure additional bits maintain balance -- you're almost guaranteeing inequity.

t offtopic As for it being the genre TV discussion thread -- I have never started a discussion about a genre TV show in there that wasn't grandfathered in. Period. I've continued ones, (because where can you thread-nanny one to?) but try to limit that. I think it's unfair to call it handwaving and denial when at least one of us (possibly more) are respecting precisely the decision that was made. t /offtopic

As for it being the genre TV discussion thread -- I have never started a discussion about a genre TV show in there that wasn't grandfathered in. Period. I've continued ones, (because where can you thread-nanny one to?) but try to limit that. I think it's unfair to call it handwaving and denial when at least one of us (possibly more) are respecting precisely the decision that was made.

"Grandfathering" in this instance becomes the handwave. Stargate is not mentioned in the thread title or header [edit: okay, it's in the header only] or slug. Previously "grandfathering" referred to Threads We Had At WX With Their Own Culture. Now we're using it to institutionalize what was basically thread-drift.

edited to change "you're" to "we're" because I'm talking more about the group decision that lead to Boxed Set, not just how ita uses it.

And if genre tv shows get their own thread (which they essentially) do, then how is that fair that other shows don't?

Because this community started out as one Buffy thread. Genre television is what brought us together.

I'm still on the fence about the politics thread.

Now you're using it to instutitionalize what was basically thread-drift.

Can you cite me situations in which thread-nannying has been enforced outside of right hand threads and incipient spoilers?

Because you seem to be suggesting it should have been done -- that conversations routinely taking place in a certain location be booted out.

I don't see the precedent for that. "I've started so I'll finish -- no foul" seems much more typical.

eta: And look -- I'm thread-nannying myself right now. I don't think this belongs here, and would be happy to discuss it somewhere else.

Stargate is not mentioned in the thread title or header or slug.

But it's mentioned in the description, or whatever it's called, that you see at the very beginning of the thread. In fact, that's why I never thought it was an issue to post about it. Or, in fact, other shows in passing. I mean, I don't know which description is supposed to be the uber description, but this seems pretty broad to me in terms of allowable topics:

"A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex."

t /off topic

Let me just add again, I'm not that hot about this topic. (Though it may sound like it.) The inconsistency bugs me and I'm trying to point out what I think are the logical problems with arguing against something like a general TV thread, when you've got (what I consider) an elephant in the living room.

Farscape/due South/Smallville is the defacto genre TV thread. The most active discussion there is about Stargate. I don't really see the virtue in pretending that it isn't a general discussion thread for science fiction/fantasy TV. (I consider due South Magical Realism, or a subset of fantasy.)

Well, we didn't mention it in the slug because we didn't want to encourage Other TV from getting moved in there. Actually, at the time I would've been perfectly happy with Boxed Set officially being a General TV thread; I wouldn't be now, because I'd mourn the loss of that small-thread feel. But my memory of the intent was that we were specifically trying to conceal thread drift of which we were perfectly aware and which we expected to happy. I mean, we were already talking about Stargate in Due South, though, which was a thread with its own culture.

I'm still on the fence about the politics thread.

And I don't mind either way, but I'll tell you this much:

If it happens, it'll be nowhere near as bad as the naysayers think it will be, nor will it stop the politics talk in other threads.

If it happens, it'll be nowhere near as bad as the naysayers think it will be, nor will it stop the politics talk in other threads.

I completely agree.