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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


JenP - Apr 02, 2004 2:24:13 pm PST #3705 of 10289

Stargate is not mentioned in the thread title or header or slug.

But it's mentioned in the description, or whatever it's called, that you see at the very beginning of the thread. In fact, that's why I never thought it was an issue to post about it. Or, in fact, other shows in passing. I mean, I don't know which description is supposed to be the uber description, but this seems pretty broad to me in terms of allowable topics:

"A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex."

t /off topic


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 2:24:51 pm PST #3706 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Let me just add again, I'm not that hot about this topic. (Though it may sound like it.) The inconsistency bugs me and I'm trying to point out what I think are the logical problems with arguing against something like a general TV thread, when you've got (what I consider) an elephant in the living room.

Farscape/due South/Smallville is the defacto genre TV thread. The most active discussion there is about Stargate. I don't really see the virtue in pretending that it isn't a general discussion thread for science fiction/fantasy TV. (I consider due South Magical Realism, or a subset of fantasy.)


Katie M - Apr 02, 2004 2:25:26 pm PST #3707 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Well, we didn't mention it in the slug because we didn't want to encourage Other TV from getting moved in there. Actually, at the time I would've been perfectly happy with Boxed Set officially being a General TV thread; I wouldn't be now, because I'd mourn the loss of that small-thread feel. But my memory of the intent was that we were specifically trying to conceal thread drift of which we were perfectly aware and which we expected to happy. I mean, we were already talking about Stargate in Due South, though, which was a thread with its own culture.


victor infante - Apr 02, 2004 2:27:41 pm PST #3708 of 10289
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm still on the fence about the politics thread.

And I don't mind either way, but I'll tell you this much:

If it happens, it'll be nowhere near as bad as the naysayers think it will be, nor will it stop the politics talk in other threads.


Jessica - Apr 02, 2004 2:28:36 pm PST #3709 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If it happens, it'll be nowhere near as bad as the naysayers think it will be, nor will it stop the politics talk in other threads.

I completely agree.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 2:28:42 pm PST #3710 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Because this community started out as one Buffy thread. Genre television is what brought us together.

I'm fine with that. Let's call it the genre TV thread.

Can you cite me situations in which thread-nannying has been enforced outside of right hand threads and incipient spoilers?

You're the one that made a point about limiting discussion there to the shows listed, and excepting Stargate because it was already happening in the Farscape thread.

eta: And look -- I'm thread-nannying myself right now. I don't think this belongs here, and would be happy to discuss it somewhere else.

I think it's germane to What Should B.Org Be, particularly in light of a fall with no ME shows. It has been posited during this discussion that Politics is outside our scope, and that we should maintain a pop cultural focus. I concur and would use that as an argument against a politics thread, and promote discussion about long-term notions of how we should be organized.


§ ita § - Apr 02, 2004 2:31:13 pm PST #3711 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fine.

You're the one that made a point about limiting discussion there to the shows listed, and excepting Stargate because it was already happening in the Farscape thread.

Okay, but cite the thread-nannying. Who told who to get topics out?

I still maintain that's unprecedented apart from the examples I cite.


Liese S. - Apr 02, 2004 2:31:34 pm PST #3712 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I wave my hand in the general direction of your deniability.

I know, David, it's a tough one. We didn't really end up with a good solution. But it came to vote, and this is what came out of it. Along with what ita's saying, I haven't really seen much of thread-nannying anywehere, except where it's policy defined and stompy enforced, like the right hand threads.

And anyway, yes. Let's move this portion if we need to.

While it relates to the similar themes as the politics thread, it is not yet up for a vote. Although if I were bettin', I'd bet it will be soon.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 2:31:50 pm PST #3713 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Bottom line for me is what kind of thread organization would provide the best discussion. That's the lifeblood of the community.

I'm not against Boxed Set by any means. I dislike that it's such a lumpy and arbitrary repository of topics.


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 2:36:07 pm PST #3714 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay, but cite the thread-nannying. Who told who to get topics out?

Nobody. But I bet if OC discussion went there, there'd be some friction.

I wouldn't mind a place to discuss genre animation: Teen Titans, Justice League, Batman Beyond. I don't really think I could start a discussion in Boxed Set on those shows.