When the season 1 Angel disks came out - - was discussion in the Angel thread?

I thought people didn't want new threads because duplicate conversations were going to happen in the same place. It doesn't make sense to create a situation where there's two places to talk about previous Angel episodes when we are trying to keep down traffic on the board.

askye - I am really confused by almost all of your posts on this. I am sure it's just a communication breakdown. I am in favor of not having two threads (in other words not having both an Angel main thread and an any sort of previously thread, but instead, just the Angel main thread).

In response to that, people are saying if we have no Previously, we have no where to discuss past Angel seasons with UnAms. I am saying we already have 6 threads in which Angel is fair game, and at least 2-3 are safe for UnAms, and so a Previously for Angel is unnecessary.

If we don't have a Previously thread of any kind and only have an Angel thread when Season 5 starts where are we going to talk about past seasons of Angel so that everyone on the board--Americans & UnAmericans--can discuss them?

• UnAm
• Natter
• Buffy

all the above are UnAm safe.

Okay, yeah I am confused because I thought we were trying to cut down on places where duplicate conversations might happen.

We are! Right now, people do/can talk about old episodes of Angel in Buffy, Angel, Bitches, UnAm, Natter and Previously.

The proposal is suggesting that rather than expand the definition of Previously to make it an old-episode-of-Angel-thread, we eliminate the thread. That doesn't add a thread. It takes it away.

I am saying we already have 6 threads in which Angel is fair game, and at least 2-3 are safe for UnAms, and so a Previously for Angel is unnecessary.

A conversation is much richer if it happens all in one place. A happy place where Americans and Unamericans can hold hands and sing the joys of their reruns. A conversation spread over six threads? NSM.

We are! Right now, people do/can talk about old episodes of Angel in Buffy, Angel, Bitches, UnAm, Natter and Previously.

Cindy, I've read all your posts on this and I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. To say that there are six threads to discuss Angel previouslies so let's get rid of one of them is unfair.

First of all the Angel thread is NAFDA discussion of all things Angel so it leaves out UnAmericans as well as people who are new to Angel and have decided to catch up in syndication before going into the Angel thread to discuss current episodes. That leaves us with five threads.

The Buffy thread is a thread for discussion of Buffy. It is not a previously on Angel thread, it was never meant to be that thread, and if there's one thread on this board that I don't want multipurposed it's the Buffy thread. That leaves four threads.

Natter and Bitches are for nattering. Your argument that previously on Angel discussion should go on there can be made for every NonNAFDA thread on this board, and would be equally inapplicable. Two threads left.

UnAmericans as the new previously on Angel thread? I don't spend any time in UnAmericans but my understanding was that it's become a subcommunity for nattering similar to Bitches. Is it fair to multipurpose that thread for previouslies?

If you want to avoid repetitive conversation we we could technically have three threads on this board: NAFDA, Non-NAFDA, and Spoilers. There's such a thing as over-streamlining, and if previously got over 3000 posts in the first 3 months of Buffy syndication I think that we need to give the thread a chance to exist for the beginning of Angel syndication.

Now there are threads that can obviously go - Buffy Spoilers/Spoilage Lite, Buffy Quotables (after deathmatch), Firefly Spoilers/Quotables - and some that can probably go - F2F (open as needed), Buffista Corp.

But I don't see why we're slashing any thread we can. If nobody posts in it, it doesn't use resources, and if people post in it, then by definition it's a useful thread. Heck, the Minear thread has gotten barely any posts past the initial new thread smell posts, and nobody's suggesting we get rid of that one. Because it makes us feel good that we have a Minear thread. And it makes us feel good that we have UnAm, and Bitches, and Natter, and Buffy and Angel, and we don't want to repurpose those threads. So we need the Previously.

Heck, the Minear thread has gotten barely any posts past the initial new thread smell posts, and nobody's suggesting we get rid of that one.

I suggested it, and Jessica agreed, IIRC.

I'm all for removing threads that don't get much play. Every. Little. Bit. HELPS. Better to chop from the bottom, up, and find that the five threads we killed and 8 we consolidated made such an improvement that we don't have to have a discussion about killing a core thread.

Monique "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Aug 21, 2003 1:06:01 pm PDT

Edited to fix the link.

This is the explanation of why we are talking about getting rid of a thread. Also, there is a great freeway analogy that Kristen made which I can't find.

But if we leave every thread that has some posts open then we end up closing nothing. The idea is to clean up and consolidate. By all means, we can close the Minnear thread. I haven't proposed it because I don't see another thread that serves a similar function. I proposed the threads I have because those, to me, seem able to be consolidated or rolled in elsewhere. People disagree which is fine and Of The Good and it means that maybe there will be enough votes against closing Previously that it will stay open.

A conversation is much richer if it happens all in one place. A happy place where Americans and Unamericans can hold hands and sing the joys of their reruns. A conversation spread over six threads? NSM.

It has NEVER happened all in one place. NEVER. There are always discussions of old (seasons and seasons) old episodes in the show threads. Always. This 'all one place' claim is an illusion. It has always been spread. Previously was a great idea that sorta caught on, and since we can have these conversations in other safe places, it is an unnecessary one.

Cindy, I've read all your posts on this and I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. To say that there are six threads to discuss Angel previouslies so let's get rid of one of them is unfair.

First of all the Angel thread is NAFDA discussion of all things Angel so it leaves out UnAmericans as well as people who are new to Angel and have decided to catch up in syndication before going into the Angel thread to discuss current episodes. That leaves us with five threads.

Wolfram, don't obfuscate. I have clearly stated the UnAm safe threads, time and time again and noted that there are 2-3 UnAm safe, with six possible (not all UnAm safe) overall.

Please. If you're going to argue with me, please be fair.

It is unsafe for UnAmericans in UnAmerican? Will it be unsafe for UnAmericans in the BtVS thread? Will Natter suddenly become unsafe?