. . . still listening. . .

It seems a clearly designated DS/SV/F thread is a clearer choice. Or elimination.

How much will consolidating these threads really accomplish? I see Kristen's point about being able to do multiple responses in one post. But I really think that's more of a factor in faster moving threads like Natter or Bitches. And what I also can see happening is the reverse - having more posts to respond to, I'm posting more than I would have otherwise (for those who don't frequent all three threads).

If all it'll accomplish is a nicer seating arrangement on the deck, then I'm starting to lean towards letting things lie. I can only speak for DueSouth, but I do see it as a sort of subcommunity. I don't know whether that's still true for Smallville and Farscape, though Plei makes a very good point about the likelihood of a resurgence in that thread. If there's no overwhelming need to revamp these threads, I hope we'll seriously consider letting them be.

I am Brenda. With respect to DS/SV/F, I think we should let things lie. My hunch is that a consolidated thread will generate more traffic than thee separate ones. I'm very concerned that Sean is right about a consolidated thread becoming a de facto general TV thread.

Can I just point out that right now, there's a fairly long digression about the West Wing going on in Angel? And in the recent past, we've had a bunch of OC and Queer Eye posts in Buffy?

I think the General TV posts are already taking up server room. They're just scattered in 10 different threads, instead of consolidated. This isn't a vote pro or con, more a comment. (and, okay, the disorganization kind of bothers me, but it doesn't seem to bug most other people, so it's a Lyra issue.)

Brenda and Jon, I'm still waffly. I guess I feel the option of not doing anything is the default vote no. So I'm looking for a something that makes sense, is compromisey but not terrible.

My big stance at this point is that I'd like anything on a housekeeping ballot to be precisely that: cleaning and consolidating. Not creating.

It's like cleaning at my house (well, if it ever happened). The goal is to pare down the clothes and the shoes, not go and buy more. So I am strongly against including anything on this ballot that CREATES new threads. I'd rather we close old ones or combine new ones through a close the old-two-and-open-one-combo-thread idea.

I do NOT want to create a de facto general TV thread.

Brenda and Jon, I'm still waffly. I guess I feel the option of not doing anything is the default vote no. So I'm looking for a something that makes sense, is compromisey but not terrible.

I agree Kat. I think that's the way to go. If the vote took place right now, I'd vote against the DS/SV/F consolidation, but by all means put the question on the ballot.

I think the General TV posts are already taking up server room. They're just scattered in 10 different threads, instead of consolidated.

I feel that I have already explained this issue as best I can. I don't think I have anything further to offer on the subject. Maybe someone else has a better way of explaining it.

Lyra Jane, the way I understand it and have observed it is that with each new thread that is created, we invite more conversation. So the ten places across the board where TV is being talked about means that it's less conversation because, frankly, people can't find it.

You created or proposed the original natter thread. Since it's inception, there has been way more natter there. Has a dedicated natter thread really cut down on the natter elsewhere, especially bitches? No. Instead, there is no an innersanctum for the natter.

In consolidating threads, I'm not wanting to invite MORE talk per se. I'm hoping to have the talk less spaces for the talk to take place.

Do you honestly believe that a TV thread would cut down on overall board use? Because I couldn't disagree more strongly with that.

I for one wouldn't be any more tempted to post in a DS/S/F thread than I am to post in the individie ones, but then again, I seem to be in a minority. If combining seems to be problematic, perhaps it makes more sense to delete them, or put each up for an individual vote delete/keep. At this point, how many active participants do they have?

Also, I just want to confirm, it seems like most of the ficcers would be fine with combining the fic writing threads & keeping the fic discussion thread separate. Is that correct?

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