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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Burrell - Aug 20, 2003 4:48:42 pm PDT #3066 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I for one wouldn't be any more tempted to post in a DS/S/F thread than I am to post in the individie ones, but then again, I seem to be in a minority. If combining seems to be problematic, perhaps it makes more sense to delete them, or put each up for an individual vote delete/keep. At this point, how many active participants do they have?

Also, I just want to confirm, it seems like most of the ficcers would be fine with combining the fic writing threads & keeping the fic discussion thread separate. Is that correct?

[efg]


Kat - Aug 20, 2003 4:50:40 pm PDT #3067 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

If combining seems to be problematic, perhaps it makes more sense to delete them, or putting each up for an individual vote delete/keep.

I like this idea.


P.M. Marc - Aug 20, 2003 4:52:39 pm PDT #3068 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If combining seems to be problematic, perhaps it makes more sense to delete them, or put each up for an individual vote delete/keep. At this point, how many active participants do they have?

About ten each, but Smallville is more active during the season, and as mentioned, I expect it to get more active when it's the lead-in show for Angel, with a former ME writer on staff.

And now I'm starting to feel like one of the Atlantic Canadians stumbling across a proposal that we don't need that thread.


Burrell - Aug 20, 2003 4:56:31 pm PDT #3069 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

And now I'm starting to feel like one of the Atlantic Canadians stumbling across a proposal that we don't need that thread.

Mucho apologies, Plei. Not trying to make anyone uncomfortable, it's just several of the thread denizens of Smallville and Farscape have said they'd miss it, but would be okay if it was gone. That's why I thought it was fair to suggest it.


P.M. Marc - Aug 20, 2003 5:04:19 pm PDT #3070 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Mucho apologies, Plei. Not trying to make anyone uncomfortable, it's just several of the thread denizens of Smallville and Farscape have said they'd miss it, but would be okay if it was gone. That's why I thought it was fair to suggest it.

I honestly do anticipate a jump in its traffic, and I think some of the main in-season posters aren't on the board much at the moment, it being summer and all.

I *DO* want to see some consolidation of the Buffy threads, but I don't think that the existing non-Buffy threads should really be touched at the moment.


Consuela - Aug 20, 2003 5:25:58 pm PDT #3071 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't know what to propose as a solution.

Can I summarize, for my own benefit?

Fewer threads = fewer posts, or so I understand. Posting expands to fill all available threads, so having fewer open threads would help towards resolving the connections problem.

Consolidating the DS, SV, and FS threads is proposed as a way to encourage consolidated posting on those issues (Kristen's "carpooling" analogy): consider it a pro-mearaing strategy. Also see above, re: fewer threads = fewer posts.

However, the concern is raised that consolidating those three threads would result in yet more posting total in that thread than currently occurs in the three separate threads because it would be used as a general tv thread (although that is not its stated purpose). Adding a new high-volume thread (such as a general tv thread) is currently discouraged for technical reasons involving board capacity.

Pro consolidation: might cut down on posting volume.
Con consolidation: might not, depending on whether the thread stays on topic or is hijacked via (natural and expected) thread drift to related topics.

Another option offered is to simply delete the three threads, which would help the board as a whole to an extent which has not yet been quantified. All three threads currently have fairly low posting volume, certainly totalling not 1/10 of Natter on an average day.

Huh. I think I don't know enough about any of this to propose a solution. Except for more enforcement of thread drift for the time being, until we get some resolution on the code issues?


Steph L. - Aug 20, 2003 5:29:30 pm PDT #3072 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What about -- and I know it's something people said they wouldn't like, but there don't seem to be any easy solutions -- rolling LOTR into Movies?


Elena - Aug 20, 2003 5:29:32 pm PDT #3073 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

I think I don't know enough about any of this to propose a solution. Except for more enforcement of thread drift for the time being, until we get some resolution on the code issues?

Sort of like asking people not to overuse their electricity?


Consuela - Aug 20, 2003 5:34:19 pm PDT #3074 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Sort of like asking people not to overuse their electricity?

I know, Elena, it seems nonsensical.

And the issue really does tie back into the question of, well, community priorities. Is this a genre-tv fannish board? An ME-verse-only board? (Although I think that was answered by the decision to open a Tim-verse thread.) A social/community board with more focus on social interaction and less on specified topics?

If we're a Jossiverse board then there's an argument to be made that the non-ME/non-Minear tv threads are out of our scope and can be tossed in order to support the more important elements of the board, however those are defined.

Thing is, every poster has a different experience here. There are people who post in the Farscape thread only, and who probably have no idea we're even having this discussion. I don't want to abandon them, but I also feel like this is, first and foremost, a Buffy community (despite the wide range of interests many of us share). And I would be willing to cut loose the (to me) extraneous stuff to keep the board and the community going.

But that's MHO; YBMV. (And I'm abusing parentheses today.)


Elena - Aug 20, 2003 5:37:50 pm PDT #3075 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Well, I'll be going pretty dark gray for the next two weeks, so I can feel all virtuous that I'm doing my part to keep posting down.