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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Kat - Aug 20, 2003 7:01:01 am PDT #2957 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think it's for archiving purposes. If I have a thread that has been combined to include Smallville and Due South, and one gets closed/archived and the other becomes something new, how would I know where to look? If we close both threads and archive then open a new thread that combines them, if I'm looking for a past discussion of Smallville, I know where it is.

May not be an issue for Previously.

But it would be for spoilers.


Katie M - Aug 20, 2003 7:01:45 am PDT #2958 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I'm not sure Farscape belongs with the other two; Due South and Smallville could become the Hoyay thread easily enough, but I think Farscape is a distinct cause.

FWIW, as someone who posts in both Farscape and Due South I think they'd settle in together fine. The Due South thread tends to go in spurts of, oh, five to fifteen posts about a particular show at a time; Farscape isn't much more active than that, really. On the other hand, that would require people who were only interested in Farscape to see a bunch of posts about other shows that they weren't interested in, which I sympathize with even if it probably wouldn't affect my vote.


Jessica - Aug 20, 2003 7:03:03 am PDT #2959 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

See, this is what I'm wondering--what the purpose of closing and reopening threads is.

Because if a thread changes topics midway through, if someone wants to download the archived version, they're effectively having to download two threads.

What I don't see is how this applies to Previously at all, since we're not proposing any change to the content or purpose of the thread.The current slug is not accurate.


Cindy - Aug 20, 2003 7:03:48 am PDT #2960 of 10289
Nobody

FWIW, as someone who posts in both Farscape and Due South I think they'd settle in together fine.

Would they, thematically?


Burrell - Aug 20, 2003 7:05:22 am PDT #2961 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

FWIW, as someone who posts in both Farscape and Due South I think they'd settle in together fine.

Might depend on how the new thread was categorized. If it were, say, the HoYay! thread, then things would fit together fine. If there were desire for a separate SciFi! thread, then Farscape and Stargate might fit better in that. I say all this as someone who is pretty much indifferent to how things turn out.


Katie M - Aug 20, 2003 7:06:19 am PDT #2962 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Would they, thematically?

Well, they fit together in my head. For all the description of Due South as a HoYay thread, it's really not so much. I mean, yeah, that comes up, but it's not a main focus of discussion.

I don't know if other people who read both would feel the same way, of course.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2003 7:12:41 am PDT #2963 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read Smallville, Due South, and Farscape, and have no aversion to their combination. I suspect Smallville-only readers may, though.


esse - Aug 20, 2003 7:15:33 am PDT #2964 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I'd be okay with combining them all, but I do think there's something of a different feel in the Farscape thread from the others.

I get the archiving thing now--but topically, would Previously and Spoilers change that much? In Spoilers, there's been both Angel and Buffy discussion, and once we completely shift to Angel discussion (which we have been doing) I don't think it'll throw anyone for a loop to look for what they've posted about Angel in the spoiler thread as long as they know it's the spoiler thread.


brenda m - Aug 20, 2003 7:16:19 am PDT #2965 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Maybe we should see if any of them can be brought out of the woodwork. I'll put a mention in DS that this conversation is happening - does someone who hangs out there want to do Farscape and Smallville.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:20:25 am PDT #2966 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

On the other hand, that would require people who were only interested in Farscape to see a bunch of posts about other shows that they weren't interested in, which I sympathize with even if it probably wouldn't affect my vote.

I think making the Farscape thread a sci-fi TV show thread is better suited to it's nature, and provided it's sci-fi shows for the most part, I don't care what other shows get discussed there, whether I watch them or not.

For all the description of Due South as a HoYay thread, it's really not so much.

I think the Smallville thread is more of a HoYay thread than Due South, I think it's just seemed that the discussions in dS are of a different nature than the discussions in Farscape.

Either way, I'm not particularly attached to which shows are discussed where, it just seems that folding our non-ME specific show threads into logical groupings like Sci-Fi TV and HoYay TV is the best way to handle our TV discussion, and consolidate smaller volume threads into slightly broader threads, which Kristen has indicated will help.

Sci-Fi and HoYay are the two main groupings that seem to make sense. If we can find a third apporpriate category we might want to think about a third thread, but consolidating threads works best if you end up with fewer than you started. I don't see that a Reality TV thread would generate quite enough traffic, because there's only one or two reality shows we like, and they don't air simultaneously, and there doesn't seem to be quite enough discussion of any of the reality shows to warrant it's own thread.

If we do Sci-Fi and HoYay, we consolidate from three(?) threads down to two, and broaden the purpose of each enough to warrant a seperate thread while not making them so narrow that only a small handful of people will use them and post only sporadically.