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'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Steph L. - Aug 18, 2003 3:53:04 pm PDT #2780 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

if it's aired on the East Coast feed but not on the West? Aired or not-yet-aired?

In all our Jossverse threads (as well as Smallville, come to think of it), it's been considered "aired," and West Coasters just have to hie themselves out or else get spoiled.


Sean K - Aug 18, 2003 3:54:55 pm PDT #2781 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Hmm... This is something I've struggled with myself. I've frequently avoided show threads on show nights due to East Coast watch and post.

What seems more inconvenient for people? East Coasters not being able to discuss a show for three hours afterward, or West Coasters having to avoid a thread for three hours before.

Personally, I think the only way to make the thread work is to keep restrictions to the barest minimum, and peeps wandering into the thread do so at their own risk. Otherwise, I think we're just setting ourselves up for bizarre convolutions that will just drive us all crazy.


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2003 3:55:16 pm PDT #2782 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That definition works well on a show by show basis, Steph. But it should be considered that if I don't get The OC (or Queer Eye, or MI-5) until the second showing, I'm out of discussing all TV shows for, like, four days a week.

Or four hours, if I just need this one show to be watched by me before I can go in.


Betsy HP - Aug 18, 2003 3:55:40 pm PDT #2783 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

The problem is, in a general TV thread, there's no natural boundary at which it's safe to come back. For instance, on Tuesday night, you might be perfectly willing to read about Queer Eye at 11 PM because you don't watch it, but really frustrated about being spoiled for MI-5. And they both air at the same time.

In the Buffy/Angel threads, you knew you could come in after seeing the show, and everything you'd miss would be about just Buffy. In a general TV thread, you never know what people are talking about.

[x-post with ita, who said it better]


Steph L. - Aug 18, 2003 3:56:20 pm PDT #2784 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What seems more inconvenient for people? East Coasters not being able to discuss a show for three hours afterward, or West Coasters having to avoid a thread for three hours before.

That means the only people who could ever watch and post would be West Coasters.


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2003 3:57:11 pm PDT #2785 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That means the only people who could ever watch and post would be West Coasters.

And if not, the only people who could ever watch and post would be East Coasters.


Sean K - Aug 18, 2003 3:58:11 pm PDT #2786 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That means the only people who could ever watch and post would be West Coasters.

This is why I am for an "Enter At Your Own Risk" designation. I don't think it will work any other way.


Steph L. - Aug 18, 2003 4:00:22 pm PDT #2787 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That means the only people who could ever watch and post would be West Coasters.

And if not, the only people who could ever watch and post would be East Coasters.

Well, we've always deferred to East Coast, I assumed because of bedtime and whatnot. Because if East Coast watch and posts, West Coast misses 3 hours of the thread but then can go back in. But if West Coast watch and posts, East Coast can't to anything until (1) after their bedtime or (2) the next day.

And I'm largely in favor of inconveniencing the fewest people.

Also, if we change the watch and post rule, we're going to have to change it for S5 of Angel, not just the TV thread if it passes. (That's not a threat or naysaying; just a reminder to do it if it happens.)


Sean K - Aug 18, 2003 4:00:25 pm PDT #2788 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And if not, the only people who could ever watch and post would be East Coasters.

How so? West Coasters would just WnP three hours later, and run the risk of catching East Coasters post-morteming the ep, like we've always had to in other show threads.

It only ever spoiled me once, but in general I was okay with that. But I understand that may just be me.


Liese S. - Aug 18, 2003 4:03:44 pm PDT #2789 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

We used to wait for the West Coasters. Incidentally.