Also, I suspect that many Buffistas do not know what the "Annual Upfront Presentation" is. I'd like to include a short explanatory sentence or two below the proposal on the ballot. Can someone suggest some text for this?
On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Jon B. - Jul 29, 2003 2:47:15 am PDT #2758 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Jim - Jul 29, 2003 2:53:35 am PDT #2759 of 10289
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Kristen? s'your phrase - i know what it is, but I cyan't define it...
As the proposer, does that exclude me from votecounting? because if not, then I'll do it.
Jon B. - Jul 29, 2003 3:11:48 am PDT #2760 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I threadsucked and found that Jess PMoon volunteered to count the votes: Jess PMoon "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Jul 24, 2003 10:44:11 am PDT
esse - Jul 29, 2003 3:43:17 am PDT #2761 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Kristen? s'your phrase - i know what it is, but I cyan't define it...
Who wants to be a millionaire--one of the options for help was to Phone A Friend. Another was to Poll the Audience.
Cindy - Jul 29, 2003 3:53:20 am PDT #2762 of 10289
Nobody
SA - I think Jim is looking for a quick and easy definition of 'upfront presentations' as used in:
That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox or the WB at their annual upfront presentation to advertisers
Jim - Instead of using that, how about using:
That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox or the WB when they announce their show line-up and show casts for the upcoming television season.
Does that say the same thing to everyone else, only not using industry jargon, or is there a distinction I'm missing?
amych - Jul 29, 2003 3:54:56 am PDT #2763 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Does that say the same thing to everyone else, only not using industry jargon, or is there a distinction I'm missing?
That's what I understood the upfront thing to mean, yeah.
esse - Jul 29, 2003 4:02:07 am PDT #2764 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
I think Jim is looking for a quick and easy definition of 'upfront presentations' as used in:
Oh.
Heh.
Cindy - Jul 29, 2003 4:04:02 am PDT #2765 of 10289
Nobody
Oh but Jim, I modified the wrong version of your proposal. I didn't take the newer version, which specifies the 4 weeks. I do think the 4 weeks should be in there though.
Cindy - Jul 29, 2003 4:07:49 am PDT #2766 of 10289
Nobody
Jim - Trying again...
Unless someone like Kristen says otherwise, how about taking:
That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox or the WB at their annual upfront presentation to advertisers, are no longer considered spoilers and may be discussed, within their respective show threads only, from 4 weeks after the Annual Upfront Presentation or 4 weeks after the previous season finale, whichever is the later. This only includes cast additions or departures that occur over summer hiatus only (not midseason) . Any plot points related to the character's (not the actor's) arrival or departure are to be treated as spoilers. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credits."
(underlined portions above are the sections we're discussing changing)
and making it:
That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox or the WB when they announce their show line-up and show casts for the upcoming television season, are no longer considered spoilers and may be discussed, within their respective show threads only, from 4 weeks after the announcements or 4 weeks after the previous season finale, whichever is the later. This only includes cast additions or departures that occur over summer hiatus only (not midseason) . Any plot points related to the character's (not the actor's) arrival or departure are to be treated as spoilers. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credits."
(suggested changes in red font)
edited to include the whole proposal, so that nobody will get the impression the last bit should be left off.
Sorry.
Jim - Jul 29, 2003 4:36:32 am PDT #2767 of 10289
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Yes. THis. So, the final final final final proposition is:
"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox or the WB when they announce their show line-up and show casts for the upcoming television season, are no longer considered spoilers and may be discussed, within their respective show threads only, from 4 weeks after the announcements or 4 weeks after the previous season finale, whichever is the later. This only includes cast additions or departures that occur over summer hiatus only (not midseason) . Any plot points related to the character's (not the actor's) arrival or departure are to be treated as spoilers. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credits."