Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sean K - Jul 26, 2003 1:57:52 pm PDT #2547 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

As to the spoiler-free peeps having to stay out of a show thread for fear that one of us who wants to discuss the BCS will spoil them, I would just like to point out that as an West Coaster, I have to stay out of show threads starting three hours before the show starts if I wish to remain unspoiled.

And even if I decide to watch and post, I run the risk of getting spoiled.

So, your plight is maybe not as unique or misunderstood as you're making out to be.

(Edited 'cuz what coast am I on again?)


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 1:59:15 pm PDT #2548 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Sean, it's not just the show thread we'd have to stay out of.

And it's not just three big hours a week.


Cindy - Jul 26, 2003 1:59:25 pm PDT #2549 of 10289
Nobody

I would just like to point out that as an East Coaster, I have to stay out of show threads starting three hours before the show starts if I wish to remain unspoiled.

Pssst. You're on the West Coast, you coaster.


Katie M - Jul 26, 2003 2:00:21 pm PDT #2550 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

As to the spoiler-free peeps having to stay out of a show thread for fear that one of us who wants to discuss the BCS will spoil them, I would just like to point out that as an East Coaster, I have to stay out of show threads starting three hours before the show starts if I wish to remain unspoiled.

Sure, but three hours and two months is a little different.


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 2:00:58 pm PDT #2551 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Agree with Kristen, too. We knew by the end of last summer that Faith and Angelus would return, thanks to DS and others.

Kristen's proposal is as cut and dried as it can be.


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 2:01:29 pm PDT #2552 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And if the spoiler policy broadens to include the website it would be more than two months.


Cindy - Jul 26, 2003 2:01:44 pm PDT #2553 of 10289
Nobody

Sean, it's not just the show thread we'd have to stay out of.

I'm still interested (and if I missed it, I apologize), to know why we couldn't make this show thread specific. Angel news is okay in the Angel thread, but not in Wonderfalls, Bitches or the Fic threads. I want to know that from people like Plei, etc. I want to know it from ita. I want to know it from Trudy and Elena.

We, Buffistas, are crafting the proposal. Why can't we do it?


Sean K - Jul 26, 2003 2:04:03 pm PDT #2554 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sean, it's not just the show thread we'd have to stay out of.

Um, most people have agreed we can limit it to show specific threads, so this is getting to be a non-issue.

And it's not just three big hours a week.

So you're saying that your time of self-imposed exile is more important than mine?


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 2:04:26 pm PDT #2555 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Angel news is okay in the Angel thread, but not in Wonderfalls, Bitches or the Fic threads. I want to know that from people like Plei, etc.

In the fic thread, it would pretty much mean a lot of people who consider the BCS not a spoiler wouldn't be posting their fic if the BCS is involved, but, as I don't write the BCS much anymore, it's not a big for me. However, I dislike, as mentioned, making some NAFDA less FD than others, and always have, even when we did it in FF and the show threads.


brenda m - Jul 26, 2003 2:08:10 pm PDT #2556 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The one other thing I'd like clarified if possible is whether there's any restriction on when the casting change occurs. For instance, the spoilers I'm currently aware of are all things that will be readily apparent (in the credits if nowhere else) as of the first episode. If a casting change is announced that says that one of the regulars is leaving mid-season, I consider that a whole other level of spoiliness, and it's the kind of thing that really would affect my enjoyment of the show.

That said, I am strongly in favor of Kristen's idea for where the info should come from. I think confusion and arguments could easily result from some of the other suggestions.

Since Jim isn't around, can we possibly use Elena's post as a basis for some suggestions or recommendations for him when he returns? I don't want him to have to wade through all the talk, but I also don't want to lose sight of some of the things we've come to some accord on.