Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 1:41:41 pm PDT #2535 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Guys, one show ending and in some or whatever way being incorporated into the other show is huge and spoiley in an unprecedented fashion.


Burrell - Jul 26, 2003 1:41:57 pm PDT #2536 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Thanks Kristen. Info from interviews is still considered verbotten, right?


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 1:42:52 pm PDT #2537 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

No apology necessary, Katie.

It makes me more likely, however, to leave NAFDA (including ::gulp:: Bitches) if we can't work something out.


Kristen - Jul 26, 2003 1:43:03 pm PDT #2538 of 10289

Info from interviews is still considered verbotten, right?

I think so. I wouldn't have previously thought that but Jeff Bell schooled me otherwise.


Katie M - Jul 26, 2003 1:43:08 pm PDT #2539 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Does this mean the third wasn't yet official? I didn't read your whitefont.

Looks like the third is official but an element of that spoiler that I happen to know wasn't. Or anyway, that's what Kristen says.

Cindy, I'm going back to whitefont:

Well but he is a regular... oh, right, you're saying that in the act of becoming not-a-regular his potential return would be as a recurring/one-shot character and thus not allowable. That makes sense, though I don't know if people would manage to hold to it. (Not that I don't think people would try - I don't want to imply that I think the spoiler folks here want to mess with the spoiler-free.) Looks like it's a moot point anyway, according to Kristen.


Cindy - Jul 26, 2003 1:46:12 pm PDT #2540 of 10289
Nobody

NAFDA is a spoiler free zone.

I agree.

We don't agree on the definition of a spoiler with regards to officially announced casting news, and how it can be handled in that zone.

I used the term 'virgin' - specifically to set aside the people who don't want to know a single thing, not even the regular cast.

The regular cast is what is in contention here. Anti-proposal people mostly say it's a spoiler until the WB tells us via a TV promo. Pro-proposal people are saying we never treated it as a spoiler until this past year. That was also a squeeze. That the squeeze was represented by an answer in the FAQ is not so much at issue as whether the FAQ was written taking board culture into consideration.

Since we previously discussed regulars and if they were returning or not, if this news broke over the summer, pro-proposal people believe it wasn't taken into consideration.

DB is Angel is no more a piece of valid news because I see a promo on my TV, than it is when I read a press release from the WB, officially confirming it renewed Angel and which cast members will be regulars. It's been artificially validated by a FAQ answer, that didn't truly answer the question with regards to Buffista spoiler/casting news treatment.

We didn't see in a promo that ASH wouldn't be a regular. We talked about SMG coming back as Buffy long before the season 6 pre-season promos aired.


Katie M - Jul 26, 2003 1:46:47 pm PDT #2541 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Info from interviews is still considered verbotten, right?

If it's a printed interview I thought it was okay?

So if, say, Joss Whedon gives an August interview to the New York Times in which he says "great news! Elvis Presley is going to rise from the dead and become a regular on Angel!" we'd be able to talk about that under this proposal.


Daisy Jane - Jul 26, 2003 1:46:49 pm PDT #2542 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Guys, one show ending and in some or whatever way being incorporated into the other show is huge and spoiley in an unprecedented fashion.

The show ending isn't spoilery, and as far as incorporation, they sort of already are. I don't think that really has anything to do with what we're discussing.


Kristen - Jul 26, 2003 1:48:31 pm PDT #2543 of 10289

If it's a printed interview I thought it was okay?

That's not a proposal I would support thanks to Jeff Bell. It would make too many things a spoiler. I'm still in the upfront corner.


Burrell - Jul 26, 2003 1:50:50 pm PDT #2544 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

That's not a proposal I would support thanks to Jeff Bell. It would make too many things a spoiler. I'm still in the upfront corner.

I'm with Kristen.