Buffy: Synchronized slaying. Faith: New Olympic category?

'Conversations with Dead People'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


P.M. Marc - Jul 26, 2003 12:42:14 pm PDT #2476 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Isn't that what the Lite thread was created for. I still don't get why everything is whitefonted there since I thought it was for casting discussion.

Sorta. Kinda. But not really.

-signed, created the fucker, so there.


Allyson - Jul 26, 2003 12:42:53 pm PDT #2477 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Low Carb Spoilers, mayhaps. Lite reminds me of rice cakes.


Elena - Jul 26, 2003 12:43:02 pm PDT #2478 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Good point. What is Lite for? I hate Lite. It's so wishy washy. Can we call it Spoilers, with 25% Less Fat, or something?

Spoilers - good for you, and good for your body.

That's a good point. There's a very spoiled thread, a moderately spoiled thread, and an (by our current definition) unspoiled thread. If there is going to be a "virgin" thread, we'd have four threads about the same show.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2003 12:43:06 pm PDT #2479 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sorta. Kinda. But not really.

Clear as mud. Damn you, wee Plei. (It rhymes!)

Going to take a walk and think about fic.


Cindy - Jul 26, 2003 12:44:28 pm PDT #2480 of 10289
Nobody

Absolutely. The reason it was tossed at me was because I asked -- how will one know if one's information is news or a spoiler?

I think that's very important, and that's why I did stuff like as Plei if she'd be willing to vet info.

I've skipped everything since this post (except managed to see a buffista has genital warts - again... *sigh*) but...

This is why I am asking if you're asking. The websearch suggestion, while kind and thoughtful, wasn't the answer. And I kinda thought that was proven way back when it was first made to you, and you first tested it. Forget the websearch, please. When you're trying to verify something, check the official site's cast page (which I realize doesn't work now, but that's not typical) or ask in the thread if anyone more spoiled than you can answer a question - not in the thread. You asked Plei if she could be the go to girl, and she said, well, sure, but word it differently, in that it's more convenient (or something) to say ask as spoiled person. Asking where to verify in spoilers lite was also thrown out. And yet you keep coming back to this. Hasn't it been answered enough yet? Are you waiting for a particular answer, because that's what it's starting to feel like.

That's all this line of enquiry has every been about -- the existing def is very verifiable. I'd like any replacement to be as nice and tight and neat.

How? You can't just order up a promo on your TV (well maybe you can, because you have TiVO and you'd know when they run. Me, I'd be doing websearches, checking the official site, and asking people if the promos ran, yet. And if we get this change, people will have to do web searches, check the official site, and ask people if there's been an official announcement). How would your well-meaning but not-in-the-know person go about verifying something they heard from a from a friend? It's the same process.

Elena - if people didn't say "no" to a virgins thread, would you find it a safe haven during the times between spoilers were allowed in NAFDA, or are you rejecting it wholesale? If you wouldn't find it a safe haven, would you find it ghettoizing and isolating?

If you would find it ghettoizing and isolating, can you put yourself in the shoes of the average poster, who is neither as spoiler houndish as say Plei, nor a spoiler virgin like you, and think how that person must feel about having to go into spoilers or spoilers lite and just to talk about stuff that they consider news, and that they consider it news is in part, because it's every bit as official as a televised promo?

ita again and from much earlier - I still don't understand why we can't keep casting news out of Bitches, keep casting news in its show specific thread, if the Bitches denizens agree to it, that is? Why couldn't we keep it safe for Trudy, Elena and other non-cast-wanting-to-know Bitches?


Katie M - Jul 26, 2003 12:44:36 pm PDT #2481 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Okay, really, the policy is not about how spoiled a Buffista is allowed to get. And you're making it sound like it is.

It's not?

I mean, it's certainly about how spoiled a Buffista should get in the course of reading the non-spoiler topics on the board. That's why there's a spoiler policy at all, to define that. Right?


DCJensen - Jul 26, 2003 12:45:56 pm PDT #2482 of 10289
All is well that ends in pizza.

I suppose it wouldn't be as easy as re-purposing Angel Spoilage Lite?
Currently:
Spoilage Lite: Angel
[NAFDA] The place for casting and other vague spoilers for Angel.

Why not:
Spoilage Lite: Angel
[NAFDA] The place for whitefonted speculation, casting and other vague spoilers for Angel. (Place s before line to whitefont)

With whitefont for everything until the official announcements are made, or commercials start appearing.

Meanwhile, we can close or suspend Spoilage Lite: Buffy


Allyson - Jul 26, 2003 12:46:32 pm PDT #2483 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

This is an argument about what makes the most Buffistas happy, which can only be solved by voting...

...the other argument is whether this can actually be voted upon. Need to discuss argument two before one can happen. Keerect?


Elena - Jul 26, 2003 12:46:36 pm PDT #2484 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Okay, really, the policy is not about how spoiled a Buffista is allowed to get. And you're making it sound like it is.

No, but the spoiler policy does dictate how spoiled a Buffista will get if they go in a NAFDA thread. If the spoiler tolerance increases to include stuff like the WB cast list and announcement, etc, I'd get too spoiled for my own tolerance and would be unable to participate because my enjoyment of the show would decrease.


Deena - Jul 26, 2003 12:47:15 pm PDT #2485 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I've just caught up and thought I'd throw my .02 in.

I don't think I've ever caught a promo except the headless Lorne one, which really annoyed the crap out of me. I just don't watch enough or the wrong things, I guess (or the right amount/the right things). Until this board, I didn't know the names of the cast members (other than SMG and DB, maybe) and so my HSQ was not spoiled by credits. In fact, most of the time, the rolling credits is my time to do a last tuck into bed/get a drink of water/feed the cat/lock down the house prowl. I never thought they were important. It took me 2 days to figure out that the previous reference to JAR refers to the actor who plays Gunn. If I'm wrong, don't tell me.

However, the show is not as important to me, now, as this board, so I'd rather my enjoyment of the show be somewhat lessened than that a substantial population of this board whose posts I enjoy, have their enjoyment substantially lessened.

If this passes, I like Kristen's idea of the press announcements being the standard, since that's a clearly defined standard.

I like the idea of keeping this in show threads rather than just any NAFDA thread.

If another thread is started, it ought to include Spoiler Fic as well as talk about the show, but then I'd become a spoilerho just to read it.