Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2003 12:01:48 pm PDT #2417 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cindy, I understand that the information comes out there. What I'm asking -- is the suggestion for me to verify after the info's out -- to track down those releases? Not particularly helpful. New season page for Angel looks reasonably unspoilery (using the proposed re-def) now that I've found it -- that's what I'd suggest as the resource.


Trudy Booth - Jul 26, 2003 12:02:58 pm PDT #2418 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

So, like I said I'm a blend of 1 and 2.

Do you want a change just for this topic (1) or for future discussions (2)?


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2003 12:03:10 pm PDT #2419 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's more about clarifying spoiler policy than changing it Steph.

I don't understand how it's about clarifying, and not changing, unless you're talking the de facto policy, not the de jure one.


Elena - Jul 26, 2003 12:03:16 pm PDT #2420 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

That is what the proposal is about, though -- changing the spoiler policy.

And the reason that it may be a problem, Steph, is that the spoiler policy may (and I believe it is) be non-changeable until Sept 20th under the current grandfather vote.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2003 12:03:40 pm PDT #2421 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I really don't want to know that.

It's going to be in the promo. That's my issue with this discussion. You don't want to know the info today, July 26, but you're okay with knowing it on the date the WB decides to show it to you?

Again, not snide, honestly wondering.

Because the spoiler that you (Trudy) know is one that will not be a surprise. The WB is going to pimp the hell out of it. And yes, they have not done so in a televised fashion as of yet.

But again, why do you not want to know it today, but you'll be okay knowing it on (for instance) September 7th? You'll still know before the show premiere.


victor infante - Jul 26, 2003 12:05:43 pm PDT #2422 of 10289
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Trudy makes a good point... I would personally prefer to be unspoiled and not get spoiled by discussion in the NAFDA threads.

Fair enough. Although, after reading all of this stuff, I'm well convinced that no one's going to come out happy from this particular debate.

Except me. I don't care.

t thinks about it

This doesn't mean I have to hit Tara now, does it?

EDITED to prove I can spell, which is something I have to do way more than I should, seeing as making sure things are spelled right is my freaking job. In truth, I'm beginning to think that my many typos on this board are a manifestation of my Jungian Shadow Self, the repressed part of my brain which deeply, deeply wishes not to be concerned with spelling, punctuation and grammer. I think I may need counseling.


Elena - Jul 26, 2003 12:06:39 pm PDT #2423 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Fair enough. Although, after reading all of this stuff, I'm well comvinced that no one's going to come out happy from this particular debate.

I think that you're quite right about that.


Susan W. - Jul 26, 2003 12:06:43 pm PDT #2424 of 10289
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Trudy, FWIW, I'd want to be able to discuss any and all main cast changes, because IMO they don't happen in a vacuum--I'd want to speculate about how any new characters would fit in with existing characters, and how the absence of any characters who might be leaving would impact the relationships of all the remaining ones, new and returning.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2003 12:06:52 pm PDT #2425 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That is what the proposal is about, though -- changing the spoiler policy.

And the reason that it may be a problem, Steph, is that the spoiler policy may (and I believe it is) be non-changeable until Sept 20th under the current grandfather vote.

The spoiler policy was changed to reflect the Cross-Show Whitefont Rule. And that should not have happened under the grandfather rule. So, to get legalistic, there is precedent. And if the law shows I watch are any indication, precedent is valid to base a decision on.


Daisy Jane - Jul 26, 2003 12:07:48 pm PDT #2426 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't understand how it's about clarifying, and not changing, unless you're talking the de facto policy, not the de jure one.

That's exactly. Hopefully I can answer Trudy with this too.

The spoiler question in the FAQ is answered one way. It hadn't been challenged because we would still talk about stuff that was officially known or released (like, and I'm sorry if I'm harping on this but it really illustrates, for me, an example, the musical episode). I want to get back to where we were.