Trudy, FWIW, I'd want to be able to discuss any and all main cast changes, because IMO they don't happen in a vacuum--I'd want to speculate about how any new characters would fit in with existing characters, and how the absence of any characters who might be leaving would impact the relationships of all the remaining ones, new and returning.

That is what the proposal is about, though -- changing the spoiler policy.

And the reason that it may be a problem, Steph, is that the spoiler policy may (and I believe it is) be non-changeable until Sept 20th under the current grandfather vote.

The spoiler policy was changed to reflect the Cross-Show Whitefont Rule. And that should not have happened under the grandfather rule. So, to get legalistic, there is precedent. And if the law shows I watch are any indication, precedent is valid to base a decision on.

I don't understand how it's about clarifying, and not changing, unless you're talking the de facto policy, not the de jure one.

That's exactly. Hopefully I can answer Trudy with this too.

The spoiler question in the FAQ is answered one way. It hadn't been challenged because we would still talk about stuff that was officially known or released (like, and I'm sorry if I'm harping on this but it really illustrates, for me, an example, the musical episode). I want to get back to where we were.

The flip side of that, Steph, is why can't y'all just wait to discuss it on the thread until it airs? Why does it really matter?

Kristen, I think that's a good idea. If we do end up deciding to make a change, that would be my preference.

Trudy, FWIW, I'd want to be able to discuss any and all main cast changes, because IMO they don't happen in a vacuum--I'd want to speculate about how any new characters would fit in with existing characters, and how the absence of any characters who might be leaving would impact the relationships of all the remaining ones, new and returning.

And this is just why I'd prefer to wait until the promos come along. Because not all of the things that Susan wants to talk about are common knowledge. I know two of them - I believe that there is a least one more that would spoil me.

I fully understand why you want to talk about that, Susan. I do. And I understand that it must be frustrating for you to not have a place to go to talk about them (assuming that you do not go into spoilers for whatever reason).

Trudy, FWIW, I'd want to be able to discuss any and all main cast changes, because IMO they don't happen in a vacuum--I'd want to speculate about how any new characters would fit in with existing characters, and how the absence of any characters who might be leaving would impact the relationships of all the remaining ones, new and returning.

So that makes you a 2. Some people just want to discuss the over the summer as they assert has been the precedent.

As a 3 I'd rather watch the show unfold

The flip side of that, Steph, is why can't y'all just wait to discuss it on the thread until it airs? Why does it really matter?

Not Steph, but I think it stiffles the speculation discussions we could be having. Or, what Susan said much better than I did.

The flip side of that, Steph, is why can't y'all just wait to discuss it on the thread until it airs? Why does it really matter?

If I answer you (and I did on the phone last night, although nobody else knows that -- mwah ha ha), will you answer me? Because I do want to know.

It matters to me because, like Susan said above, I want to discuss how new casting fits into the existing show. As a spoiler ho, I can say that Joss hasn't said a peep about the hows and wherefores, etc. Just that the casting change will happen. And what we do here is speculate. And discuss. And speculate some more.

It might not be as widely known as "Buffy will rise," but it's pretty damn close. People have known it since the Buffy finale. And want to discuss it. Because this is, as Hec said way earlier, a discussion board.

Now. How about you? I do really want to know.

Months behind. I don't know if Buffy's even ended for all of them yet.

OZ is just getting Chosen now. Buffy will have ended for them in a week, IIRC. Depending. What with their mucked-up schedules.

I think for AtS, they've got one more.