If the website is a kosher source for information Lorne's head would NOT have been a spoiler.

The proposal is only about a) casting changes for b) regulars over c) the summer. (Well, the summer thing is an addition of Cindy's, but the first two are solid.) So because Lorne wasn't a regular at that time, and there was no casting change involved, it would still have been a spoiler.

You don't know what Aunt Ethel looks like.

If she's on top of Angel with Carrot Top, I don't need to.

If she's on top of Angel with Carrot Top, I don't need to.

When I said "on Angel" I meant the show.

Because Aunt Ethel with Carrot Top is much better than a threesome.

When I said "on Angel" I meant the show.

Oh sure, tell me that now.

Guys, you don't even agree NOW what "officially published by the network or production company" means. AKA, it is NOT obvious.

Trudy, I appreciate your position on this, but the differences in our definitions are minor, and part of the discussion we are having right now is to hash out the specifics.

Most of the definitions presented by the people here have been very close to identical, so saying we "can't agree" and that the definition is "not obvious" is kind of blowing things out of proportion.

Alright, not a spoiler.

Telling people they can discuss X from the website and not Y will prove tricky.

And the disagreement is because the wording has not completely gelled. Different wordings suggest slightly different ranges of permissable sources.

Maybe we should stick to Jims orginal wording as far as source.

"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads. This includes cast additions or departures. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credit

Advertised by ... in press advertising or their official websites.

OK - that is absolutely unambiguous.

I would still change "Fox, the WB or ME" to the "The network broadcasting the show, or the production company creating and writing the show" - so that if Angel moves to HBO that is included, and if ME changes it's name to "Mutant Fluffy Bunnies" that is still covered.

And of course include that this applies only to betwen season spoilers.

So the propose change is pretty close to Cindy's"

"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME the network broadcasting the show or the production company responsible for creating and writing the show in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads. This includes cast additions or departures. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credit. Information is only considered non-spoiler if released at least one month prior to the season in which the casting change takes place.

Most of the definitions presented by the people here have been very close to identical, so saying we "can't agree" and that the definition is "not obvious" is kind of blowing things out of proportion.

I don't think it is. We have a hard enough time with the policy as it now stands and it is VERY clear.

Telling people they can discuss X from the website and not Y will prove tricky.

I think "official copy" would cover it. That's very specifically not boards and chat rooms.

But I for one would be willing to forego web advertising, just to be safe.

Sean

Discussion boards, warnerbros.com, fan sites, none of those would count. Interviews would not count, but ad copy, including quotes, would.

Just as quantifiable as "on air promo," and actually doesn't all that radically change the current policy or definition, as far as I can see.

Burrell

"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers" [quotations added to indicate that this is not my own language, I was quoting the proposal]

I feel that a straightforward reading of these lines ("advertising" = advertisements; official websites != fansites) leaves little to no room for misunderstanding.

Guys, you don't even agree NOW what "officially published by the network or production company" means. AKA, it is NOT obvious.

I'm not trying to be a pill. What is the big disagreement here?