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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 8:43:22 am PDT #1889 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If the WB is promoting it

I'm curious -- does Lorne's decapitation fall under that?


Lyra Jane - Jul 25, 2003 8:43:31 am PDT #1890 of 10289
Up with the sun

I really, really dislike the idea of a thread-specific amendment, because again, what if something like this comes up again?

Not advocating either way, but:

The way to get around this would be to say the casting news can be discussed *in threads dedicated to the show in question,* whatever that show was.


JohnSweden - Jul 25, 2003 8:44:03 am PDT #1891 of 10289
I can't even.

I guess my position then becomes that I feel WB/ME promotional material, Jossian interviews, and entertainment media magazines/programs should be exactly equivalent to on-air promos.

That's quite different from the current understanding/ruleset. I think the promos set a good line because they are canon-ish. Once the WB airs a promo, that's easily quantifiable. When we say "entertainment media magazines/programs", that's a pretty wide net, and there's no saying how widely those media are viewed/read. I mean, the Upper Rubber Boot Register does a 4 page spread. Entertainment Tonight does 10 seconds. Spoiler or Common Knowledge?


Cindy - Jul 25, 2003 8:44:04 am PDT #1892 of 10289
Nobody

Is it a major market?

Yes.

Will the story get picked up and distributed widely? Did Joss talk about the casting?

I've seen it distributed since, but now I can't remember where. WRT to the casting question, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear that I can't remember the content. My point was, you mentioned mainstream media or summat, and so my quesiton was hypothetical. If it's mentioned in the morning paper of a major city, is that mainstream enough?


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:18 am PDT #1893 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If it's mentioned in the morning paper of a major city, is that mainstream enough?

It sounds to me like Elena's answer is no, since only the people in that city who read the paper would know.


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:32 am PDT #1894 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Elena, you're riding this really hard. Would any newspaper qualify, in your eyes? And I don't mean that in a snarky way; I'm genuinely wondering. Because it sounds like no.

They were genuine questions. I'm not in the US. I don't know if Boston is a major market. I'm trying to get a feel for how widely the information is known. That's all I'm trying to do.

I don't actually understand what you mean by 'riding this really hard'. (Literally, not sure what the phrase means here.)


Cindy - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:34 am PDT #1895 of 10289
Nobody

I'm curious -- does Lorne's decapitation fall under that?

I feel like this question ignores the context of the proposal, which is focused on discussing off-season additions to and departures from the contracted regular cast.

edited to add the words "focused on discussing"


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:48:09 am PDT #1896 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

It sounds to me like Elena's answer is no, since only the people in that city who read the paper would know.

Hi. Standing right here... I just wanted more information.

Have you guys ever been spoiled when you didn't want to be? It's not a good thing. I'm just trying to keep it from happening to other people. I don't think that's a bad thing.


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 8:49:03 am PDT #1897 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I don't actually understand what you mean by 'riding this really hard'. (Literally, not sure what the phrase means here.)

You seem to be responding very similarly to everyone when they mention a scenario in which a main casting spoiler has been disseminated (i.e., "I haven't seen it." "Not to me." etc.)


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 8:50:24 am PDT #1898 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we get abstract for a second, Cindy? I'm asking about principles -- you've stated that the WB promoting something is sufficient that you don't consider it a spoiler.

I'm trying to understand that if the WB promotes something the writer doesn't want you to know -- do you still consider that something that can spoil?

Again -- my only reason for voting yes would be because I'd bowed to the inevitability of the news spreading. Not the rightness, or the lack of detriment to people that don't want to know. Just that ... it'll happen to most, trust me.

Other people are obviously coming from different places, and I'm trying to ascertain what they are.