Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.

'Objects In Space'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Cindy - Jul 25, 2003 8:44:04 am PDT #1892 of 10289
Nobody

Is it a major market?

Yes.

Will the story get picked up and distributed widely? Did Joss talk about the casting?

I've seen it distributed since, but now I can't remember where. WRT to the casting question, I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear that I can't remember the content. My point was, you mentioned mainstream media or summat, and so my quesiton was hypothetical. If it's mentioned in the morning paper of a major city, is that mainstream enough?


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:18 am PDT #1893 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If it's mentioned in the morning paper of a major city, is that mainstream enough?

It sounds to me like Elena's answer is no, since only the people in that city who read the paper would know.


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:32 am PDT #1894 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Elena, you're riding this really hard. Would any newspaper qualify, in your eyes? And I don't mean that in a snarky way; I'm genuinely wondering. Because it sounds like no.

They were genuine questions. I'm not in the US. I don't know if Boston is a major market. I'm trying to get a feel for how widely the information is known. That's all I'm trying to do.

I don't actually understand what you mean by 'riding this really hard'. (Literally, not sure what the phrase means here.)


Cindy - Jul 25, 2003 8:45:34 am PDT #1895 of 10289
Nobody

I'm curious -- does Lorne's decapitation fall under that?

I feel like this question ignores the context of the proposal, which is focused on discussing off-season additions to and departures from the contracted regular cast.

edited to add the words "focused on discussing"


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:48:09 am PDT #1896 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

It sounds to me like Elena's answer is no, since only the people in that city who read the paper would know.

Hi. Standing right here... I just wanted more information.

Have you guys ever been spoiled when you didn't want to be? It's not a good thing. I'm just trying to keep it from happening to other people. I don't think that's a bad thing.


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 8:49:03 am PDT #1897 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I don't actually understand what you mean by 'riding this really hard'. (Literally, not sure what the phrase means here.)

You seem to be responding very similarly to everyone when they mention a scenario in which a main casting spoiler has been disseminated (i.e., "I haven't seen it." "Not to me." etc.)


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 8:50:24 am PDT #1898 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we get abstract for a second, Cindy? I'm asking about principles -- you've stated that the WB promoting something is sufficient that you don't consider it a spoiler.

I'm trying to understand that if the WB promotes something the writer doesn't want you to know -- do you still consider that something that can spoil?

Again -- my only reason for voting yes would be because I'd bowed to the inevitability of the news spreading. Not the rightness, or the lack of detriment to people that don't want to know. Just that ... it'll happen to most, trust me.

Other people are obviously coming from different places, and I'm trying to ascertain what they are.


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:52:42 am PDT #1899 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

You seem to be responding very similarly to everyone when they mention a scenario in which a main casting spoiler has been disseminated (i.e., "I haven't seen it." "Not to me." etc.)

I'm just saying what my experience is. If I'm giving similar answers it's because they are true - I haven't seen these things that are being mentioned. Is it really any different then people explaining where they saw the news?


Cindy - Jul 25, 2003 8:52:43 am PDT #1900 of 10289
Nobody

Have you guys ever been spoiled when you didn't want to be? It's not a good thing. I'm just trying to keep it from happening to other people. I don't think that's a bad thing.

Yep - Joyce's death in a thread title at the old WB threaded Bronze. It sucked. It wasn't the only time, either. I wasn't always a spoiler hound. Sometimes, I'm so pristine I could be canonized, and I have reasons for both spoiling and not spoiling.

The thread title on Joyce's death spoiled a story for me - spoiled the end of IWMTLH.

I'm going to ask again, what are we protecting by delaying this discussion of additions/departures until the promo airs on TV? At that point, we all agree the info is fair game for NAFDA. So people who go to NAFDA would not learn this information as part of a plot, anyhow. Those who abandon NAFDA around August or September would still not learn this information from the plot, but rather from the opening credits.

What value is there to be had from extending the rule to this extreme?


Elena - Jul 25, 2003 8:54:27 am PDT #1901 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

What value is there to be had from extending the rule to this extreme?

I'm still not 100% sure that this is an extension of the rule. I consider it to be within the actual spoiler guideline.