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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2003 5:18:36 pm PDT #1705 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So in that case, you'd have about 5 minutes of thinking anything other than Wesley is a regular.

This is a general "you", I'm going to assume, since a) I don't watch the credits (TiVo), and b) I'd not notice.

Elena, I hear you. However, it is an issue of how small the minority and how inconvenience the majority, no? I have a suspicion Pinwiz will find this out, and he's my upper bar for cast-iron chastity.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2003 5:19:08 pm PDT #1706 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, this is the place to make arguments against - that's what the thread is for. If you can talk the proposer into quashing the vote, then, and I'm not sure about this, it could go into moritorium. But the whole thing is - we know there are people out there who would like (and through some miracle be able) to remain virgin-pure on these big spoilers. The question is, should that dictate the spoiler policy for the whole board?

At least that's how I see the issue. I don't absolutely care either way in terms of the outcome, but no argument is going to sway against voting for the change. Does that make sense?

edited for faulty paren. Oy, and punctuation. I should just give up.


Elena - Jul 24, 2003 5:22:37 pm PDT #1707 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Elena, I hear you. However, it is an issue of how small the minority and how inconvenience the majority, no?

Oh, ita, absolutely. That's my stance entirely. Because if our spoiler policy were in anyway tyrranical we'd allow no discussion of the promos since those sully my virgin eyes.

But the whole thing is - we know there are people out there who would like (and through some miracle be able to) remain virgin-pure on these big spoilers.

Bolding mine. And here's what I (and, I think Katie) mean about notknowing=livingunderarock. Because, honestly, do you really think that it's that hard to avoid these things? Really? It's not as long as people don't assume that 'everyone' knows.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2003 5:26:37 pm PDT #1708 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because, honestly, do you really think that it's that hard to avoid these things?

If you're in the US, yes. I've tried, half-assedly, and it didn't work. Listening to Pin explain how he does it -- it's an effort, not the simplest outcome.

Outside the US, it's a different deal.


Elena - Jul 24, 2003 5:29:17 pm PDT #1709 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Fair enough, then. There aren't enough unAms on the board to dictate major policy (hence the way people are allowed to talk about promos even though it vexes me) - if this really is something that is difficult to avoid in the US, then by all means it should be something that can be discussed.


Katie M - Jul 24, 2003 5:30:16 pm PDT #1710 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

The question is, should that dictate the spoiler policy for the whole board.

Okay, in all seriousness, why do you think the answer is no? What's frustrating about having to restrain Probably Obvious Spoiler talk to the Spoilers Lite topic? Since I personally don't find that frustrating at all.


Katie M - Jul 24, 2003 5:30:59 pm PDT #1711 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

(Asking out of curiosity, not because I want to argue the point.)


Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2003 5:31:11 pm PDT #1712 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Honestly, what I think it is the the UnAmericans are going to get the short end of this (at least the ones who want to remain unspoiled) if the vote is yay. But I think I'd rather have the majority rule than the minority in this instance.

If it goes the other way, I don't care (mostly) and I will deal (completely), but I also would like to discuss some things without the jumping through hoops of whitefont. This isn't going to a thing for my major gripe, which is dealing with the bloody whitefonting over HP5 in literary. But I can live with that. I just know how I feel on this, and I'm voting accordingly. Hell, Jim is one of the UnAmericans, and he's the one who finally proposed it. It would have gotten proposed anyway, but that's how it ended up happening.

ETA Does that answer the question, Katie? It wasn't why I posted, but I'm curious if it does.

and edited for stupid punctuation errors again.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2003 5:34:09 pm PDT #1713 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the UnAmericans are going to get the short end of this (at least the ones who want to remain unspoiled)

We're mixing issues here.

UnAmericans have a simpler time of staying unspoiled. But it's not what's being discussed.

Who will get the short end of the stick are people who have off-season casting news aversions. No reason this applies to all or only UnAms.


Elena - Jul 24, 2003 5:34:19 pm PDT #1714 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.

Honestly, what I think it is the the UnAmericans are going to get the short end of this (at least the ones who want to remain unspoiled) if the vote is yay. But I think I'd rather have the majority rule than the minority in this instance.

To be fair, nonNAms that go into NAFTA threads know that they'll get spoiled for stuff they haven't seen. We're talking about stuff that hasn't aired yet. Which is our policy. This is not about me going into the unAm thread and talking about the season 7 finale. This is about people going into spoiler safe threads and discussing spoilers.

The thing that has to be determined is if this is really a 'spoiler' or common knowledge.