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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2003 1:47:32 pm PDT #1076 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK-- this doesn't have much to do with the vote, but I think it is generally unclear whether or not you can e-mail the stompies with some sort of complaint. From the prior procedural vote, it is clear that official action is taken in thread and in Bureacracy and you need to complain in the open about it.

However-- what to do in the case of a complaint about something that is occuring via email (harrassing of posters) or if someone does use "email an admin" to complain about a problem poster.


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 2:11:18 pm PDT #1077 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm more concerned that we had to handle the response backchannel because we didn't want them seeing the debate on what to do about it.

Really? If we'd had a locked thread, I'd have not wanted to bring it frontchannel because it was primarily the business of the poster involved. Frankly, I could have made my case in front of the complainants (well, perhaps using different words) -- it was only the response-crafting that was not board-suitable, and that's more because I think response crafting isn't board-suitable, and has less to do with the specifics of the letter.

I'm of the opinion that locking the thread protects nothing. I can register, read, change my e-mail address to something invalid, and go on a harassment spree and you'll never know who it was.


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2003 2:19:15 pm PDT #1078 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What is this thing response whatever that was handled backchannel? Is it the Anathema leaving thing?

I don't think having a closed thread is going to do much except create a false sense of security. I think we need to explore options of having some things that need security handled back channel and not have people getting angry about it.

I don't get angry, I get curious!


Jon B. - May 05, 2003 2:23:16 pm PDT #1079 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

There was some backchannel crafting of emails/responses to Anathema, but I think the one we're talking about is when two unregistered lurkers wrote the admins to complain that a poster was talking trash about them and that they would try to seek a legal remedy.


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 2:24:33 pm PDT #1080 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

two unregistered lurkers

Was that confirmed?


Jon B. - May 05, 2003 2:25:32 pm PDT #1081 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Was that confirmed?

No. I'm just guessing. Good point.


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2003 2:33:35 pm PDT #1082 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks!


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2003 2:34:28 pm PDT #1083 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Barn door, horse, at this point.

While it would be nice to have a user-only channel, I don't see it as practical, and agree with the "false sense of security" people.


Consuela - May 05, 2003 2:35:16 pm PDT #1084 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

They were threatening legal action against the admins and posters on the board because they didn't like what they were reading.

Gah. ... and in the time it took me to read to the end of the thread I see that it was resolved. Yay. (Although I'm beginning to think it might be good to have a lawyer as a Stompy, if we don't already. Just for a certain comfort-level. And no, I'm not volunteering to be that individual since I'm not an active bar member at this time. Still, something to consider.)

Maybe we should set up an email address like security@buffistas.org? Which is purely for those sorts of situations? And am I completely off topic?


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 2:36:27 pm PDT #1085 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe we should set up an email address like security@buffistas.org? Which is purely for those sorts of situations?

This sort of situation wouldn't have used it ... the other parties e-mailed the admins with the threat.