Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - May 05, 2003 2:25:32 pm PDT #1081 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Was that confirmed?

No. I'm just guessing. Good point.


Sophia Brooks - May 05, 2003 2:33:35 pm PDT #1082 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks!


P.M. Marc - May 05, 2003 2:34:28 pm PDT #1083 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Barn door, horse, at this point.

While it would be nice to have a user-only channel, I don't see it as practical, and agree with the "false sense of security" people.


Consuela - May 05, 2003 2:35:16 pm PDT #1084 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

They were threatening legal action against the admins and posters on the board because they didn't like what they were reading.

Gah. ... and in the time it took me to read to the end of the thread I see that it was resolved. Yay. (Although I'm beginning to think it might be good to have a lawyer as a Stompy, if we don't already. Just for a certain comfort-level. And no, I'm not volunteering to be that individual since I'm not an active bar member at this time. Still, something to consider.)

Maybe we should set up an email address like security@buffistas.org? Which is purely for those sorts of situations? And am I completely off topic?


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 2:36:27 pm PDT #1085 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe we should set up an email address like security@buffistas.org? Which is purely for those sorts of situations?

This sort of situation wouldn't have used it ... the other parties e-mailed the admins with the threat.


Consuela - May 05, 2003 2:56:31 pm PDT #1086 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

This sort of situation wouldn't have used it

Got it, but in general, it might be a clearly-identified resource for members of the community. Just a thought.


§ ita § - May 05, 2003 2:59:08 pm PDT #1087 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it might be a clearly-identified resource for members of the community

I'm not getting what resource it would provide, though.


Wolfram - May 05, 2003 3:03:06 pm PDT #1088 of 10289
Visilurking

I think one step towards a solution is to understand the nature of the problem:

1) We want a place to discuss trolls without trolls seeing it.
2) The place must be open to all registered users.
3) It is impossible to prevent trolls from becoming registered users.

These three givens are entirely mutually exclusive.

Unless we do something about 3 - i.e. new screening methods, or we change the requirements of 2 and allow a backchannel forum that not all registered users can access, we won't have a "safe haven" for these discussions.


Jon B. - May 05, 2003 3:05:38 pm PDT #1089 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Also, Wolfram, I'm not clear that we want your 1), or rather that we need anything more than the administration mailing list to handle it.


Wolfram - May 05, 2003 3:13:08 pm PDT #1090 of 10289
Visilurking

Jon, I'm stating the apparent reasons behind the initial proposal:

Proposal: That the community, if it is practical to code, allow individual threads to be designated, "Accessible only to members of the community," and restrict access to those threads only to registered users. Any such threads to be so designated shall be determined by separate proposal and vote. If the proposal passes, the coding of this feature shall be added to the features request list.

And if the admins are going to be available to assist where there are problems of this nature I think it ought to be more publicized.