Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Nov 06, 2024 9:56:59 am PST #3320 of 3468
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think the Dems will take the House either.

There's a huge rightward shift in Pennsylvania. Even solid bastions like NY and VA moved right by about 5 points. California wasn't able to flip the Republican seats that they'd lost in the last election.

I know Trump will want to make an example of San Francisco and send in his ICE agents in January. That will play well with his base.

Worried about Matilda's boyfriend who was born in Nicaragua but moved here when he was 4.

It feels clear to me that Trump's (and Vance's) incessant misogyny was a big selling point. In fact, it is the point. Dominating and controlling and demeaning women is their agenda, and it has a lot of supporters.

I can't believe 23% of Black men voted for Trump. So apparently they forgot about Charlottesville, and Trump condoning White Supremacy groups? That Trump will have no checks on police brutality and black men will be killed with impunity?

And Latino men who feel secure in this country even though Trump is threatening mass deportations and referred to Puerto Rico as garbage.

I was telling someone this morning that after the 2016 election I looked at photographs of lynchings. The ones where the dead body is hanging from the tree and all the white faces are smiling and having a party, and they brought their kids along. And I just thought, "These people haven't changed. That's who Americans are."

I've spent the last decade thinking hard about this country's racist history, but I have apparently underestimated the misogyny.


NoiseDesign - Nov 06, 2024 10:15:53 am PST #3321 of 3468
Our wings are not tired

I know as a white male and living in CA I'm in a relatively safe area, but I'm also atheist and queer, which are not welcome.

I don't want my country to be like this, but it is.

I don't want to run away, but I'm going to make sure my Canadian citizenship is in order so that there is some sort of emergency exit path.

I'm just sick.


msbelle - Nov 06, 2024 10:22:36 am PST #3322 of 3468
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I’m actually sick. Barely kept breakfast down.

I’m just keeping my door closed at work and letting f bombs fly, because seriously? Fuck white people. Fuck fuck fuck them!

I think things may need to crash and burn as fast as possible to have any hope of getting things back at midterms. Like full crazy cakes fascism from him.


bennett - Nov 06, 2024 10:29:00 am PST #3323 of 3468

Sadly, I don't think even full crazy cakes fascism would stop some people. He's going to have to crash the economy (which really, heavy tariffs might do) before some people will turn on him.


Dana - Nov 06, 2024 10:47:02 am PST #3324 of 3468
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I wonder if there's anything Biden and company can do between now and the inauguration to put up some guardrails. Not that it will matter, probably, since the assholes are happy to break any law.


erikaj - Nov 06, 2024 10:52:21 am PST #3325 of 3468
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't think it's ALL that we are. But certainly a dark and constant thread. No government would allow me to immigrate because I need benefits. Sure glad I did all that work trying to prove that voting works. Really thinking about quitting that, because it doesn't. not the way we do it anyway. Really feel like my life, never the most happening thing ever, is all but over now.


erikaj - Nov 06, 2024 10:55:16 am PST #3326 of 3468
Always Anti-fascist!

Probably by the time we would have had the midterms, PDA will not exist anyway. an instructive 15 years....


Steph L. - Nov 06, 2024 11:22:18 am PST #3327 of 3468
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I wonder if there's anything Biden and company can do between now and the inauguration to put up some guardrails.

It's time for Biden to test the limits of the ruling that something isn't illegal if POTUS does it.

I’m actually sick. Barely kept breakfast down.

My therapist warned me she might have to run for the bathroom to barf, because she had been barfing all morning.


Laura - Nov 06, 2024 11:53:40 am PST #3328 of 3468
Our wings are not tired.

At vet. $1012 in tests. Dog is as sick as the rest of us.


shrift - Nov 06, 2024 12:16:12 pm PST #3329 of 3468
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I've worked so hard and sacrificed so much to support this stupid fucking election.

I have the Stardew Valley 1.6 update on consoles, my niece's 16th birthday party this weekend, and LEGO sets to put together. One foot in front of the other, I guess?