I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Nov 06, 2024 8:20:28 am PST #3312 of 3468
Thrive to spite them

So . I was looking at CNN's comparison of the exit polls for 2016, 2020, and 2024.

Trump lost the white male college educated vote. He also lost support among white males without a college education. In fact the only white demo in terms of gender and education he stayed steady with was white women with no college education.

It wasn't enough to change the election but I think it's an interesting statistic.

I also think there are going to be a lot of people who will be shocked when the leopards don't just eat their faces but rip them to shreds. And some who will say they are glad it's the leopard they voted for and not the Commie woman.

Right now I'm hoping that somehow Kennedy and Musk don't actually get any jobs in the administration. Its a very faint hope.


chrismg - Nov 06, 2024 8:29:18 am PST #3313 of 3468
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Man, I don't even have the energy to say "What the hell" this time.

I'm at work, which is actually keeping me from falling into a spiral, but at some point I'm going to have to work through my emotions, which is not something I'm good at.

I think more than anger, or even disgust, I'm just feeling bewilderment. Like, really? Even with the Electoral College and the gerrymandering and the Dying Of Whiteness bunch and the "I work three jobs and am exhausted" factor, REALLY? You gave it to that guy after he told you to your face what he is?

I need to say, I am more grateful than ever for this community. Years after Buffy ended, you've been there, holding each other up, even if I don't contribute as much as I'd like.

(And I want to be around more, because we need all the connections we can find to get through whatever's next.)

Jessica, homemade salted caramel sounds wonderful, and I'm just sorry I'm living in the State of Error so far away from it.


lisah - Nov 06, 2024 8:35:37 am PST #3314 of 3468
Punishingly Intricate

Right now I'm hoping that somehow Kennedy and Musk don't actually get any jobs in the administration. It’s a very faint hope.

Well we know how fast Trump can turn his own staff against him at least and how fast he’ll kick someone to the curb if they lose his favor


Atropa - Nov 06, 2024 8:44:51 am PST #3315 of 3468
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Fuck, fuck, fuck.

I have incredible privilege in that I can immigrate to the UK thanks to Mr. Loomycakes, my job is remote, and my company has UK offices. I don't want to totally upheave our life. But I honestly don't know if I can stay here.


-t - Nov 06, 2024 8:55:24 am PST #3316 of 3468
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm at work, which is actually keeping me from falling into a spiral, but at some point I'm going to have to work through my emotions, which is not something I'm good at.

This is so me. I'm like a camel with emotions which is not good for me I know but keeps me somewhat functional

Salted caramel through a straw sounds delightful

I'm in the office and absolutely no one is coming anywhere close to talking about politics, which I appreciate. Yesterday I heard someone talking on the phone (she sits pretty far away from me but it's just a big open space and her voice carries, I feel like I hear all her calls very clearly and wonder if she knows that) and in between the marketing stuff she said something about how every other place she worked there was a lot of "hey, remember to vote" talk on election day but here there was nothing and that is a trifle odd but we are all just flinchy and avoidant, I think. OTOH, one of our managers brought in bagels for our department this morning and one of my coworkers is making salad for lunch for everyone, so our little team is quietly mutually supportive through food which is nice.


lisah - Nov 06, 2024 8:58:49 am PST #3317 of 3468
Punishingly Intricate

That is nice, -t.

I snapped at one client who is a real nerve worker already today but my program manager has my back.


meara - Nov 06, 2024 9:00:19 am PST #3318 of 3468

I can’t even think about future or consequences or who might do what, right now. I just can’t.

But much as the UK has their own issues, I am v jealous, Atropa.


sj - Nov 06, 2024 9:45:42 am PST #3319 of 3468
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don’t know what time I fell asleep last night, but I was pretty sure it was over when I did. I woke up at 6 and saw it confirmed. I think TCG was more shocked than me because somehow he still expects people to do the right thing. I’m feeling pretty numb right now, but I’m going to go out and do something if only to avoid my in-laws this afternoon.


DavidS - Nov 06, 2024 9:56:59 am PST #3320 of 3468
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think the Dems will take the House either.

There's a huge rightward shift in Pennsylvania. Even solid bastions like NY and VA moved right by about 5 points. California wasn't able to flip the Republican seats that they'd lost in the last election.

I know Trump will want to make an example of San Francisco and send in his ICE agents in January. That will play well with his base.

Worried about Matilda's boyfriend who was born in Nicaragua but moved here when he was 4.

It feels clear to me that Trump's (and Vance's) incessant misogyny was a big selling point. In fact, it is the point. Dominating and controlling and demeaning women is their agenda, and it has a lot of supporters.

I can't believe 23% of Black men voted for Trump. So apparently they forgot about Charlottesville, and Trump condoning White Supremacy groups? That Trump will have no checks on police brutality and black men will be killed with impunity?

And Latino men who feel secure in this country even though Trump is threatening mass deportations and referred to Puerto Rico as garbage.

I was telling someone this morning that after the 2016 election I looked at photographs of lynchings. The ones where the dead body is hanging from the tree and all the white faces are smiling and having a party, and they brought their kids along. And I just thought, "These people haven't changed. That's who Americans are."

I've spent the last decade thinking hard about this country's racist history, but I have apparently underestimated the misogyny.


NoiseDesign - Nov 06, 2024 10:15:53 am PST #3321 of 3468
Our wings are not tired

I know as a white male and living in CA I'm in a relatively safe area, but I'm also atheist and queer, which are not welcome.

I don't want my country to be like this, but it is.

I don't want to run away, but I'm going to make sure my Canadian citizenship is in order so that there is some sort of emergency exit path.

I'm just sick.