I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Jul 13, 2024 5:23:56 pm PDT #1519 of 3462
Thrive to spite them

In news that will shock no one Elon Musk has tweeted that he fully supports Trump. I guess this is the first time he has officially said he supports Trump.


Dana - Jul 13, 2024 5:57:32 pm PDT #1520 of 3462
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Well, today is a clusterfuck.


meara - Jul 13, 2024 6:58:55 pm PDT #1521 of 3462

The writers of this season of America have jumped the shark. This is ridiculous.


askye - Jul 13, 2024 7:48:45 pm PDT #1522 of 3462
Thrive to spite them

I went ahead and I installed most of my social media apps because I know I would just end up checking them and getting stressed. Ill check them at home on my computer.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2024 8:15:36 pm PDT #1523 of 3462
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Apparently we're on the timeline that misses by three inches.


Dana - Jul 13, 2024 8:22:58 pm PDT #1524 of 3462
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I've seen several people mention that most candidates who survive assassination attempts don't get much of a bump in the polls, and most end up losing.

So, yeah. Here we are, America.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2024 8:36:17 pm PDT #1525 of 3462
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've seen several people mention that most candidates who survive assassination attempts don't get much of a bump in the polls, and most end up losing.

Are people who were undecided going to be more inclined to vote for Trump after this?

I don't think so.

Were people who were against Trump going to give him a sympathy vote?

I don't think so.

Are Trump voters going to be irrational and incensed?

Yes, but they were already there.

I don't think it really changes anything. Except if Trump were to lose the election his followers would be even less likely to see it as valid.

But since they have pre-emptively said the election is invalid I don't think that changes anything for this election.

It just further entrenches the nutbags beyond this moment.


JenP - Jul 14, 2024 2:52:17 am PDT #1526 of 3462

David, those are my thoughts as well.

meara, you said it best. Totally jumped the shark.


Calli - Jul 14, 2024 3:56:44 am PDT #1527 of 3462
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Huh. CNN is saying the shooter was registered as a Republican. [link] The only possible good that could come of all this is a mass purge and round of infighting that finishes destroying the Republican Party.


askye - Jul 14, 2024 5:25:44 am PDT #1528 of 3462
Thrive to spite them

He was 20 years old, this would have been the first Presidential election he could have voted in. He was registered as a Republican and also gave $15 to the PAC Progressive Turnout Project which is a voter contact org to rally Democrats.

Which do you tht Trump supporters are going to latch on to?

20 years old and he did this.

There is also audio of Trump being concerned about getting his shoes instead of immediately following the orders of the Secret Service but I'm going to be very very generous and chalk that up to shock

It also shows that people making assumptions before any info is available is really bad. I saw people claim this was staged because

1) no one else was injured or killed , which wasn't true 2l people weren't panicking or reacting in the video , but they were or at least part of the crowd reacted and part wasn't aware of what was happening immediately 3) if it was real the Secret Service would have had Trump off the state immediately but it looks like Trump wasnt getting off quickly