Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2024 8:15:36 pm PDT #1523 of 4222
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Apparently we're on the timeline that misses by three inches.


Dana - Jul 13, 2024 8:22:58 pm PDT #1524 of 4222
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I've seen several people mention that most candidates who survive assassination attempts don't get much of a bump in the polls, and most end up losing.

So, yeah. Here we are, America.


DavidS - Jul 13, 2024 8:36:17 pm PDT #1525 of 4222
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've seen several people mention that most candidates who survive assassination attempts don't get much of a bump in the polls, and most end up losing.

Are people who were undecided going to be more inclined to vote for Trump after this?

I don't think so.

Were people who were against Trump going to give him a sympathy vote?

I don't think so.

Are Trump voters going to be irrational and incensed?

Yes, but they were already there.

I don't think it really changes anything. Except if Trump were to lose the election his followers would be even less likely to see it as valid.

But since they have pre-emptively said the election is invalid I don't think that changes anything for this election.

It just further entrenches the nutbags beyond this moment.


JenP - Jul 14, 2024 2:52:17 am PDT #1526 of 4222

David, those are my thoughts as well.

meara, you said it best. Totally jumped the shark.


Calli - Jul 14, 2024 3:56:44 am PDT #1527 of 4222
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Huh. CNN is saying the shooter was registered as a Republican. [link] The only possible good that could come of all this is a mass purge and round of infighting that finishes destroying the Republican Party.


askye - Jul 14, 2024 5:25:44 am PDT #1528 of 4222
Thrive to spite them

He was 20 years old, this would have been the first Presidential election he could have voted in. He was registered as a Republican and also gave $15 to the PAC Progressive Turnout Project which is a voter contact org to rally Democrats.

Which do you tht Trump supporters are going to latch on to?

20 years old and he did this.

There is also audio of Trump being concerned about getting his shoes instead of immediately following the orders of the Secret Service but I'm going to be very very generous and chalk that up to shock

It also shows that people making assumptions before any info is available is really bad. I saw people claim this was staged because

1) no one else was injured or killed , which wasn't true 2l people weren't panicking or reacting in the video , but they were or at least part of the crowd reacted and part wasn't aware of what was happening immediately 3) if it was real the Secret Service would have had Trump off the state immediately but it looks like Trump wasnt getting off quickly


Laura - Jul 14, 2024 6:33:09 am PDT #1529 of 4222
Our wings are not tired.

Is it wrong that I hope they had to shave the side of his head to treat him?

Also, although disgusting that this was possible I don’t mind the news being off Biden’s age.


JenP - Jul 14, 2024 6:33:31 am PDT #1530 of 4222

If it's any indication, no one here has mentioned a damn thing about it, and I've been chatting with folks all morning. Literally, not one word.


flea - Jul 14, 2024 6:35:17 am PDT #1531 of 4222
information libertarian

Dr.Ruth, Richard Simmons, and Donald Trump would have been an interesting trio of 1980s celebrities. Instead, Shannen Doherty, who had a hard life in some ways.


Steph L. - Jul 14, 2024 6:53:43 am PDT #1532 of 4222
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Instead, Shannen Doherty

Oh, dang. That really sucks.